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Neil
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Re: Ranking next week...
« Reply #3630 on: June 20, 2009, 01:23 PM »
Quote from: netcord on June 20, 2009, 10:54 AM
200 points less than last year for a final spot, but a Murray v Fed final would pretty much guarantee number 1 spot for the winner. Murray would overtake Rafa 20th July when Queens points replace his Indy zero-pointer. Also the Olympics points drop off August, so Murray would be well placed regardless going into USO
SO MUCH AT STAKE!
Yeah but Murray can't hang on to the ranking. He'd lose it prior to Montreal on the 3rd August if Fed reaches the semi-final. Probably certain to be top 2 though which is the key point I suppose
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« Reply #3631 on: June 23, 2009, 11:08 AM »
But he'd have it! He'd have been no1 in the world at one stage!!! That's immense!
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« Reply #3632 on: June 23, 2009, 11:29 AM »
Quote from: ljsmall on June 23, 2009, 11:08 AM
But he'd have it! He'd have been no1 in the world at one stage!!! That's immense!
It would be galling for Djoko too, given his arrogance at the start of last year!
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« Reply #3633 on: June 23, 2009, 11:31 AM »
Exactly! Although I was just playing with the spreadsheet and Nole's Quarter really looks like it could open up.
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« Reply #3634 on: June 23, 2009, 11:32 AM »
Hopefully he will be overtaken soon.
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« Reply #3635 on: June 23, 2009, 11:33 AM »
Quote from: ljsmall on June 23, 2009, 11:31 AM
Exactly! Although I was just playing with the spreadsheet and Nole's Quarter really looks like it could open up.
Ooooh, good point, I haven't updated the spreadsheet yet! The Serb doesn't look comfortable though, I thought he was going out last night...
Andy would BEAST him in a final!
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« Reply #3636 on: June 23, 2009, 12:19 PM »
He's not comfortable but he does seem to have the luxury of playing in. Not too many banana skins for him in his quarter.
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« Reply #3637 on: June 23, 2009, 12:20 PM »
Quote from: ljsmall on June 23, 2009, 12:19 PM
He's not comfortable but he does seem to have the luxury of playing in. Not too many banana skins for him in his quarter.
He does have a nice quarter, but Federer would annihilate him in the semis...
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Re: Ranking next week...
« Reply #3638 on: July 02, 2009, 02:42 AM »
There are five possibilities for how the top of the rankings will look in the coming month. Here they all are:
Murray loses in the semis
Federer does not win the tournament
Date
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2
3
4
6th July
Nadal
Federer
Murray
Djokovic
20th July
Nadal
Federer
Murray
Djokovic
27th July
Federer
Nadal
Murray
Djokovic
3rd August
Federer
Nadal
Murray
Djokovic
Murray loses in the final
Federer loses in the semis
Date
1
2
3
4
6th July
Nadal
Federer
Murray
Djokovic
20th July
Nadal
Murray
Federer
Djokovic
27th July
Federer
Murray
Nadal
Djokovic
3rd August
Federer
Nadal
Murray
Djokovic
Murray loses in the semis
Federer wins the tournament
Date
1
2
3
4
6th July
Federer
Nadal
Murray
Djokovic
20th July
Federer
Nadal
Murray
Djokovic
27th July
Federer
Nadal
Murray
Djokovic
3rd August
Federer
Nadal
Murray
Djokovic
Murray wins the tournament
Date
1
2
3
4
6th July
Nadal
Murray
Federer
Djokovic
20th July
Murray
Nadal
Federer
Djokovic
27th July
Murray
Federer
Nadal
Djokovic
3rd August
Federer
Murray
Nadal
Djokovic
Murray loses in the final
Federer wins the tournament
Date
1
2
3
4
6th July
Federer
Nadal
Murray
Djokovic
20th July
Federer
Nadal
Murray
Djokovic
27th July
Federer
Murray
Nadal
Djokovic
3rd August
Federer
Nadal
Murray
Djokovic
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Re: Ranking next week...
« Reply #3639 on: July 02, 2009, 08:17 AM »
Shay, you are a stats-wielding bad-ass angel sent from on high to help us unravel the complexity of the ATP-rankings system
Not only that, but you do it at 2.42AM when us mere mortals are snoring and dribbling... Truly, we are not worthy
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Re: Ranking next week...
« Reply #3640 on: July 02, 2009, 09:06 AM »
Quote from: charlienomad on July 02, 2009, 08:17 AM
Shay, you are a stats-wielding bad-ass angel sent from on high to help us unravel the complexity of the ATP-rankings system
Not only that, but you do it at 2.42AM when us mere mortals are snoring and dribbling... Truly, we are not worthy
Amen to that!
Astounding amount of talent on MW
I'll take scenario no.4 please!
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Re: Ranking next week...
« Reply #3641 on: July 02, 2009, 09:16 AM »
If Murray goes no-1, how much ahead would he be in points? Can't Fed/Nadal do a crappy tournament to try and take it back?
EDIT: Sorry, I actually meant to ask can Murray be prevented from getting no-1 if Fed/Nadal play crappy tournaments.
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Re: Ranking next week...
« Reply #3642 on: July 02, 2009, 10:23 AM »
Even just to be no 1 for a brief moment is amazing, he's got a lot of hard work to do though in the next 5 months.
Cheers, Shay.
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Re: Ranking next week...
« Reply #3643 on: July 02, 2009, 10:32 AM »
Brilliant assessment of the facts and figures, Yamor. Think I'd prefer it if he stays where he is ftb until he has a chance of working to stay at No.1. I'd love him to win Wimbledon though, Have to wait and see. I feelNadal will soon reclaim and retain his No.1 when he gets back to normal.
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Re: Ranking next week...
« Reply #3644 on: July 02, 2009, 10:56 AM »
Quote from: Mark on July 02, 2009, 09:16 AM
If Murray goes no-1, how much ahead would he be in points? Can't Fed/Nadal do a crappy tournament to try and take it back?
I'm not really sure what you mean. If you look at my previous post you'll see it's anyway impossible for Murray to hold on to the number 1 spot for more then two weeks even if Federer/Nadal do not play any other tournaments.
If you mean to say is it possible for Federer/Nadal to stop Murray being number 1 at all by playing crappy tournaments, then the answer is that Federer could not, but nadal theoretically could by accepting wildcards both into Newport next week, and a tournament the week after as well. Now, Nadal has pulled out of Davis Cup next week, so he's not going to be accepting wildcards like that. So basically, Murray is guaranteed number 1 if he wins Wimbledon.
Remember, you can work out yourself all possible scenarios by using the spreadsheet I posted up a few weeks ago (I linked to it in the opening post of the thread where I put up the Wimbledon spreadsheet).
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