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Question: Was Murray's manner of withdrawal honest?
Yes, he truly didn't know until the last minute. - 11 (61.1%)
No, he probably knew but wanted to keep the hype up for various reasons. - 4 (22.2%)
I'm not sure on this one. - 3 (16.7%)
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Was Murray's pull out suspicious? « on: June 24, 2007, 06:05 PM »
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Quote from: Mark on June 24, 2007, 06:00 PM
You seemed to know more about his chances than Murray did with all the rubbish that came from the Murray camp in the last couple of weeks.

It wasn't rubbish. It was very carefully crafted misinformation designed to maintain the marketability of the tournament to the British public for as long as possible.

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Was Murray's pull out suspicious? « Reply #1 on: June 24, 2007, 06:09 PM »
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With all the speculation, we might as well have a poll on it.

Do you feel Murray misled us because the LTA wanted him too?

Did you find it was suspicious how the vibe from the Murray camp was very positive of his chances?

Did he want to leave it till the last minute to decide because he truly believed he could be better just in time?

Why did he say the doctors said he coudn't reinjure his wrist and then the next day completely U-turn on that comment?

Is fuzzyballs just a Murray hater? lol
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Re: Murray v Lapentti « Reply #2 on: June 24, 2007, 06:09 PM »
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Dont be daft fuzz, Wimbledon doesn't rely on British players to market itself.

:p Hell, in my day, apart from a rare appearance and a few Brit flash in the pan wins, it was about great tennis and great characters.

I dont see Wimby losing any money by Andy pulling out, do you? Very Happy

I shall be supporting Tommy Haas and Andy Roddick, along with Rafa, of course.
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Re: Murray v Lapentti « Reply #3 on: June 24, 2007, 06:14 PM »
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Yes, quite a lot in the domestic market. The performance of British players means a lot to the domestic market. In a wider context the LTA are under pressure. They have been spending money left and right, and what have we got to show so far? The most promising British player has been sidelined for months, missed 2 slams, completely missed the clay season, completely missed the grass court season, and still there is a cloud over when he will actually make a return. Hardly a great advert for what has been going on
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Re: Was Murray's pull out suspicious? « Reply #4 on: June 24, 2007, 06:18 PM »
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Fuzzyballs knows how these things work and Murray not playing Wimbledon, on the back of the time out he has had this season, is a total disaster for the LTA. They need a good news story to justify the spending spree they have been on.
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Re: Was Murray's pull out suspicious? « Reply #5 on: June 24, 2007, 06:18 PM »
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You're enjoying this, eh Fuzzy? roflmao
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Re: Was Murray's pull out suspicious? « Reply #6 on: June 24, 2007, 06:20 PM »
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How does fuzzyballs know about these things? Does fuzzyballs want to give us a clue of his occupation? Smile
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Re: Was Murray's pull out suspicious? « Reply #7 on: June 24, 2007, 06:21 PM »
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Quote from: Sir Panda on June 24, 2007, 06:18 PM
You're enjoying this, eh Fuzzy? roflmao

I'm glad my call on him not playing was vindicated, even when everyone though I had been proved wrong.
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Re: Was Murray's pull out suspicious? « Reply #8 on: June 24, 2007, 06:22 PM »
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Quote from: fuzzyballs on June 24, 2007, 06:14 PM
Yes, quite a lot in the domestic market. The performance of British players means a lot to the domestic market. In a wider context the LTA are under pressure. They have been spending money left and right, and what have we got to show so far? The most promising British player has been sidelined for months, missed 2 slams, completely missed the clay season, completely missed the grass court season, and still there is a cloud over when he will actually make a return. Hardly a great advert for what has been going on

The LTA have been squandering money for decades.

Hopefully Roger Draper has had the balls to spend it on the right things. I think his plan is more long term and not just resting on Murray. You make it sound as if it's deliberate, which is, of course, a load of cobblers.

It's the 10 an 11 year olds who need the money and the role model. If the fate of British tennis rests with Andy, I'd emigrate and change to being a US citizen pronto, if I was him.
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Re: Was Murray's pull out suspicious? « Reply #9 on: June 24, 2007, 06:22 PM »
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It's all relative fuzzy, still 90% of what you say is proven wrong. But recently you have been right about a few things, what is the world coming to?
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Re: Was Murray's pull out suspicious? « Reply #10 on: June 24, 2007, 06:25 PM »
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:p Mr. Green LOL Looking at early results on the poll, we're a cynical load of bu**ers aren't we?
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Re: Was Murray's pull out suspicious? « Reply #11 on: June 24, 2007, 06:27 PM »
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Quote from: hulahoop on June 24, 2007, 06:22 PM

The LTA have been squandering money for decades.

Hopefully Roger Draper has had the balls to spend it on the right things. I think his plan is more long term and not just resting on Murray. You make it sound as if it's deliberate, which is, of course, a load of cobblers.

It's the 10 an 11 year olds who need the money and the role model. If the fate of British tennis rests with Andy, I'd emigrate and change to being a US citizen pronto, if I was him.

Umm, British tennis for the next 10 years is Murray I'm afraid. Nobody else on the way any time soon who is looking likely to do anything. Those 10 or 11 year olds you speak of,the ones who have the talent won't have any problems getting funded, LTA or no LTA. The fact is we have a shortage of world class talent. The LTA can throw money at kids and develop an army of Barry Cowan's, problem is it's not what the plan is. The LTA and British public want slam winners.
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Re: Was Murray's pull out suspicious? « Reply #12 on: June 24, 2007, 06:50 PM »
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Quote from: fuzzyballs on June 24, 2007, 06:27 PM
Umm, British tennis for the next 10 years is Murray I'm afraid.
Unfortunately that looks to be the case. Pat Cash only recently said there isn't going to be another Andy Murray.
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Re: Was Murray's pull out suspicious? « Reply #13 on: June 24, 2007, 07:03 PM »
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I'd settle for the depth of France and Spain's tennis players. Apart from clay (and taking out the phenomenom that is Rafa) they haven't had that many GS winners. How long since  a Frenchman won the FO?

But there are so many watchable players.

I'd rather watch the tactics of a guy like Fabrice Santoro than Boggers or his ilk, any day.
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Re: Was Murray's pull out suspicious? « Reply #14 on: June 24, 2007, 07:13 PM »
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How many people - outside of the fan community - actually care whether Andy Murray plays or not? The majority of people that go to Wimbledon wouldn't have seen him anyway, and a rather large percentage of Britain thinks he's a cocky little bastard.
Admittedly, what people are interpreting as stringing the public along might have been a genuine tactic employed by the LTA, but I think it has as much to do with keeping the profile of Wimbledon high than manipulating the fans. Given the fact that it falls just after Glastonbury and Royal Ascot, it's profile might have been slightly diminished, had the press not had something to focus on.
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