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Re: 2012 USO Final: Murray vs Djokovic « Reply #3045 on: September 16, 2012, 12:30 AM »
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You know, with all the negative remarks regarding Federer, some justifiable and some not- i particularly enjoyed his rally for relief matches he organised, and i also genuinely enjoyed some of the youtube vids of his, especially the one where he's laughing his ass off with rafa trying to do a commercial Smile yes he can act smug and can be very ambiguous in his interviews, but i am not looking forward to his retirement, as he has been a very good ambassador for the sport, and his participation in tennis since 1998 has increased the interest in the game and also some of his matches have been really enjoyable to watch (apart from when he's beaten Andy in finals ofc).

So yeah, not a great fan of his personally, but i understand his contribution to the game, his rivalries and his ability so will be quite sad when he hangs up his racket. I know Andy respects him so i feel obliged to do the same.
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Re: 2012 USO Final: Murray vs Djokovic « Reply #3046 on: September 16, 2012, 12:54 AM »
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You know, with all the negative remarks regarding Federer, some justifiable and some not- i particularly enjoyed his rally for relief matches he organised, and i also genuinely enjoyed some of the youtube vids of his, especially the one where he's laughing his ass off with rafa trying to do a commercial Smile yes he can act smug and can be very ambiguous in his interviews, but i am not looking forward to his retirement, as he has been a very good ambassador for the sport, and his participation in tennis since 1998 has increased the interest in the game and also some of his matches have been really enjoyable to watch (apart from when he's beaten Andy in finals ofc).

So yeah, not a great fan of his personally, but i understand his contribution to the game, his rivalries and his ability so will be quite sad when he hangs up his racket. I know Andy respects him so i feel obliged to do the same.
I think you've just highlighted the rather curious anomaly that is Roger Federer, and I reckon none of us, including his own fans, will ever know the real man.
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Re: 2012 USO Final: Murray vs Djokovic « Reply #3047 on: September 16, 2012, 04:13 AM »
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Yep....sad..pathetic.. cowards send hate mail. To a sportsman of all of all people...of all the things they could hate...they hate a sportsman...I hope andy just laughed at it...coz thats all its worth ..if that.

Even if he chooses to laugh at those, it must bring him down at some point to some degree.
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Re: 2012 USO Final: Murray vs Djokovic « Reply #3048 on: September 16, 2012, 06:46 AM »
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Aah, Mats tender
Aah Goran tender
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Re: 2012 USO Final: Murray vs Djokovic « Reply #3049 on: September 16, 2012, 03:24 PM »
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Yes I'm looking forward to seeing how this matchup goes in the future. Although Rafa's comfortably ahead in the head-to-head, they are almost even on hard courts and I feel that Andy's game matches up well with Rafa on a hard court. The USO loss last year was a surprise for me - I was expecting the match to be a lot closer than it was, though there has been a vast improvements in Andy's mentality and more aggressive forehand since then. Hopefully he can start to improve the head-to-head over the next few years.

Andy should have the positive H2H vs Rafa on hard and on grass, I hope they meet soon. I feel Andy's made vast improvement on that surface the most but handled the pressure even better,  so it will be interesting to see this match up on that surface.  And yes, would love to see that H2H get more closer than where it right now. I feel a lot of people are anxiously waiting for his return and to see where things are at with him right now. It's a long break but well deserved but this sort of break would probably give Federer a complete heart attack. lol
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Re: 2012 USO Final: Murray vs Djokovic « Reply #3050 on: September 16, 2012, 03:36 PM »
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I think you've just highlighted the rather curious anomaly that is Roger Federer, and I reckon none of us, including his own fans, will ever know the real man.

But we know our man.    Andy is so open and natural - his own person - not an image thank God.   
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Re: 2012 USO Final: Murray vs Djokovic « Reply #3051 on: September 16, 2012, 04:04 PM »
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But we know our man.    Andy is so open and natural - his own person - not an image thank God.   
And neither fame nor fortune will ever change him.
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Re: 2012 USO Final: Murray vs Djokovic « Reply #3052 on: September 16, 2012, 05:16 PM »
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And neither fame nor fortune will ever change him.

Well said!!!
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Re: 2012 USO Final: Murray vs Djokovic « Reply #3053 on: September 16, 2012, 10:32 PM »
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Hi All,

The thing that strikes me, looking back now, is how calm Andy was in the final. I really don't recall much berating himself, smacking his head, smacking the racquet, that sort of thing. I also don't recall much looking over towards Ivan, Kim and co, although maybe he did. When Petch is commentating he doesn't seem to remark on that sort of thing, whereas Barry 'excuse me while I crawl up my own backside' Cowan pounces every time Andy so much as murmurs. Andy should ask him how many slams he's won Whistle.

I must just say, I think Petch and Fleming did a great job for Sky with the commentary. It was the right balance between neutral and really in to it, although I swear Petch almost sounded like he couldn't breathe towards the end!

You know, I'd almost forgotten about that loss to Chardy. It felt completely irrelevant to me at the time, and it proved to be. How far did Chardy get at Flushing Meadows? I just didn't see a point in Andy going all out to save that match, and he probably could have, with the USO so close. There would have been no point in saving that and doing well in Cincy to then go on and have a bad time at the USO. I'm not really suggesting anything about tanking, but I think there are times when certain losses don't mean anything, and that was one of those times. The same applies to the Mahut match at Queen's, and definitely applies to Andy losing to Raonic in Barcelona. At the end of the day Andy won the USO (I love saying that yay), he got to the Wimbledon final, and he taught Raonic a lesson he is unlikely to forget any time soon at the USO. Job done for now, I would say!

What I still can't get over is picking Andy so far ahead of this year's USO and then him going and doing it! I knew I should have put a few quid on the lad! I just felt, seriously, that something has been changing in him for a while, even before Lendl arrived, and it would come to fruition for him by the time this year's USO came round. Lendl's arrival sort of sealed it for me. Somehow I knew they would click, and they have, big time. I'm glad Lendl gets the importance of the Olympics and sees it as a big one.

I think Andy can take so much from this USO. He won for a start, and got the monkey off his back. No more will he have to endure being asked when he is going to win a major. No more will people be able to question if he will win one. There will be no more doubts that he fits right in with that elite group at the top. Remember when it was being said that Andy was losing ground on the top guys, and that some behind him were catching him up? What utter rubbish. Andy has shown that he fits right within the top four and there is still plenty of room, and time, for more.

I think Andy can take so much from the way he dealt with the pressure moments at the USO. He was clearly nervous and struggling physically against Bogomolov, but he won in straight sets anyway. He toughed it out against Lopez and did his thing in three tie-breaks. People will insist that Andy wasn't playing well in that match. I look at it differently. Sometimes I think you have to give an opponent a little credit. I still feel that Lopez played out of his skin that day. I still don't recall seeing him play better than that against anyone, let alone Andy. Andy's back was right to the wall with Cilic, but it's weird, at no point did I think he would lose. Either I'm psychic or Andy is brilliant, you take your pick Whistle. Against Berdych Andy coped better with the conditions. He was also very tough in that 4th set. Just about anyone else might have found themselves in a fifth set there. Not Andy, not now. In the final Andy was physically strong and mentally tough. I do think he was picking himself back up in the 4th set, but I also think that bathroom break was such a wise move. It tells me that he was thinking clearly, working out what to do and getting himself ready to do it. I also think that when it came down to it he wanted to win, didn't want to lose another one, so he went out there and fought. I think he played a total blinder in that 5th set. It reminded me so much of the way he was against Fed at the Olympics. It was like he'd made up his mind he wanted it, he was going to take it and that was it. I just think that shows how mentally strong he is. I really do think being able to take stock like that before that fifth set will help him when he is in that position again.

I just feel at the moment that this year we have watched Andy come of age right in front of us. I think there was always a potential for him to play this well and get to where he wants to be, but now we are seeing it. It feels damned good! The exciting thing for us, which could scare the hell out of opponents, is that there may be room for Andy to get even better. I think we can look to the future now with real optimism.


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Re: 2012 USO Final: Murray vs Djokovic « Reply #3054 on: September 17, 2012, 08:59 AM »
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Just read online in the mail that Andy said he used to get hate mail sent to his locker room at Wimbledon.Thats terrible,terrible,terrible.Breaks my heart it does brought tears to my eyes,when i read it.Whats the matter with people these days.Well at least he's had the last laugh,bless him.Hope he has a fab day tomorrow. hug

It was back in 2006 that he received all the abuse. I think we can all see now that the nation has taken him to their hearts.

It's only taken a Wimbledon final, a gold medal and a US Open title, but he got there!
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Re: 2012 USO Final: Murray vs Djokovic « Reply #3055 on: September 17, 2012, 09:14 AM »
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You're right Sir Panda......Hopefully he and we can forget about that now and focus on the positive!
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Re: 2012 USO Final: Murray vs Djokovic « Reply #3056 on: September 17, 2012, 10:35 AM »
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It was back in 2006 that he received all the abuse. I think we can all see now that the nation has taken him to their hearts.

It's only taken a Wimbledon final, a gold medal and a US Open title, but he got there!
Not all of them, but certainly the large majority. There will always be the tools who think he is anti-English.. ironically enough the same people who will roar abuse at the Scotland (and Ireland, and Wales) national team(s), and the grouchy, miserable (again, ironic) people who claim he is too dour and miserable. And the bitter Federer fans of course.
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Re: 2012 USO Final: Murray vs Djokovic « Reply #3057 on: September 17, 2012, 10:53 AM »
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Well TMH.......Maybe with the remaining band of grouchers, we should just treat it as a dog would do!! Sniff it.....and if you can't eat it or bonk it, just pee on it and walk away!  Whistle
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Re: 2012 USO Final: Murray vs Djokovic « Reply #3058 on: September 17, 2012, 11:08 AM »
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Well TMH.......Maybe with the remaining band of grouchers, we should just treat it as a dog would do!! Sniff it.....and if you can't eat it or bonk it, just pee on it and walk away!  Whistle
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Re: 2012 USO Final: Murray vs Djokovic « Reply #3059 on: September 17, 2012, 12:02 PM »
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Couldn't have put it better myself Caz lmao
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