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Question: Will Andy win any clay court titles?
He wins them all - 3 (6.7%)
He wins at least one - 32 (71.1%)
He wins none - 10 (22.2%)
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Re: Andy's 2013 clay court season « Reply #30 on: April 03, 2013, 10:21 PM »
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Have a feeling I read it was only 500 on MW just recently - anyway that's my excuse for giving out wrong information  Whistle
Yeah, someone else said so recently too, but if it weren't compulsory, and was only worth 500 points, it would just be a 500!  I think the explanation that it counts within your allocation of 500/250 tournaments explains some of the confusion.  However, Rafa got 1000 points for winning there last year.
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Re: Andy's 2013 clay court season « Reply #31 on: April 03, 2013, 11:41 PM »
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Yeah, someone else said so recently too, but if it weren't compulsory, and was only worth 500 points, it would just be a 500!  I think the explanation that it counts within your allocation of 500/250 tournaments explains some of the confusion.  However, Rafa got 1000 points for winning there last year.
It's definitely worth 1000 points.  As far as I understand it, MC was threatened with being downgraded to a 500 a few years ago.  Naturally the organisers weren't happy, so it was finally agreed that it remain as a Masters but that it would be a non-obligatory one.
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Re: Andy's 2013 clay court season « Reply #32 on: April 04, 2013, 09:15 AM »
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It seems Andy is remaining in Miami to train for the clay-court season rather than returning to London.  That does make sense, and no doubt Kim and the doggies will still be there too to keep him company.


 

Yes Andy said in his post-match interview with Sky (I think) that  he'd take 3-4 days off, train on the clay courts in Miami and then fly to MC next Wednesday.   I'm so glad he decided not to play DC as it would have given him no time to train on clay.  And he'll probably enter MC with less recent clay experience (either match or training) than any of the other top players, after his exertions and achievements in Miami.
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Re: Andy's 2013 clay court season « Reply #33 on: April 04, 2013, 01:55 PM »
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What Andy says:

"I can play some decent tennis on it but I need to work extremely hard on the clay because I haven't played on it in 10-and-a-half months now, so it always takes me a bit of time to get used to," said Murray.

"It's the most challenging surface for me and with Rafa coming back it's going to be very tough, but I'll give it my best shot."


A potential benefit of being ranked number two is, given an ideal draw, he could be placed in the opposite half to Djokovic, Federer and Nadal at the French Open in May.

Murray will now take a break for a few days before practising on clay in Florida, and then heading to Europe for the Monte Carlo Masters, which begins on 14 April.

"I didn't want to overplay too much at the beginning of the year - a lot of guys this week have been complaining they're tired and we saw quite a few guys pulling out," he said.

"I think being fresh helped me and hopefully I can keep managing my schedule well throughout the year."



Murray on clay in 2012
•Monte Carlo: Quarter-final (lost to Tomas Berdych)
•Barcelona: Quarter-final (lost to Milos Raonic)
•Rome: Last 16 (lost to Richard Gasquet)
•French Open: Quarter-final (lost to David Ferrer)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/tennis/21994026
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Re: Andy's 2013 clay court season « Reply #34 on: April 04, 2013, 03:04 PM »
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hope he has agood clay season
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Re: Andy's 2013 clay court season « Reply #35 on: April 04, 2013, 04:00 PM »
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I'd be chuffed if Andy could string together a clay court season like 2011. Didn't he give Rafa a run for his money in one of the clay tournies that year? I've gone blank as to which it was, but either Monte Carlo or Rome rings a bell. I think it was MC.

Of course, a clay title, any clay title, would be fabulous. If Andy was to win the French I think I'd have to lie down in a dark room until Queen's rolls around!

The clay isn't my favourite part of the year, although I don't hate it as such. Andy winning a title would make it a whole lot better, but no pressure Whistle.

Last year's clay season was a bit of a shame really. I don't know about anyone else, but in 2011 I felt Andy was really starting to go somewhere on the clay. Last year I think the back problem was a big factor in him not doing so well. Still, the quarters at the FO wasn't too bad really. I'd be delighted if he went anywhere beyond that this year. I'd be dilerious if he got to the final.

I don't know why the clay is Andy's toughest surface. He doesn't move as well on it as he does on hard and grass, which I suppose is a big factor. Still, I'm sure he, with Lendl, is working on it. Lendl won the French four(?) times, so Andy is in good hands.
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Re: Andy's 2013 clay court season « Reply #36 on: April 04, 2013, 04:52 PM »
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Until we get back to the UK, all matches will be BST+1hr, so not too difficult.

ah thanks thats good hope they in the evening
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Re: Andy's 2013 clay court season « Reply #37 on: April 04, 2013, 05:02 PM »
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tj it is indeed his movement that is the problem for Andy on clay for, as Aileen said, his patella problem makes it harder to slide.  But as you say he had a really good clay season the previous year and I seem to remember pushed both Rafa and Nole hard when he lost to them.  Oddly enough as someone pointed out his first match on clay last year was brilliant but it seemed to be downhill all the way from that - perhaps because of the back kicking in?  I always recall Peter Fleming saying that Andy flattered to deceive in that first match. Anyway if he could just do as well as 2011 I'd be pretty pleased, though even more so  if he won a title (any title being realistic) and so I've voted for at least 1 title. 
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Re: Andy's 2013 clay court season « Reply #38 on: April 04, 2013, 05:32 PM »
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I can remember him playing in Monte Carlo last year and it was the first time I heard him saying he was getting pain killing injections for a back problem.  He did as well as he could under the circumstances and I am looking forward to seeing an improved Andy on the red stuff this year.  He did say after the AO he was going to Miami to do some work in readiness for the clay court season and I wonder if he has been working on clay in Miami with Lendl and if this was a factor in the performance against Ferrer when his game was not up to standard?
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Re: Andy's 2013 clay court season « Reply #39 on: April 04, 2013, 06:19 PM »
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Ruthie, I've voted for at least one title too and I don't care which one it is, but all I 'really' want, in an injury free Andy at the end of it!  pray
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Re: Andy's 2013 clay court season « Reply #40 on: April 04, 2013, 06:23 PM »
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I don't know why the clay is Andy's toughest surface. He doesn't move as well on it as he does on hard and grass, which I suppose is a big factor. Still, I'm sure he, with Lendl, is working on it. Lendl won the French four(?) times, so Andy is in good hands.
It's a huge factor. His game relies on movement. When he's not moving well, or as well as he'd like, it affects his whole game, from his serve to his groundstrokes.
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Re: Andy's 2013 clay court season « Reply #41 on: April 04, 2013, 06:26 PM »
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Ruthie, I've voted for at least one title too and I don't care which one it is, but all I 'really' want, in an injury free Andy at the end of it!  pray

I voted for one too - can't remember which lol, just wanted to inject some optimism. I've decided I am excited about the clay season. We all know it's not Andy's best surface and there are lots of specialists on clay who appear at this time of year to spring upsets. But hey, Andy hasn't too many points to defend, he isn't awful on clay, it's really just relative to his ability on other surfaces so I'm going to take each match as it comes, each win as a bonus and enjoy the challenge .
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Re: Andy's 2013 clay court season « Reply #42 on: April 04, 2013, 06:57 PM »
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Each win as a bonus is a good attitude to take into the clay court season WW (though as you say his poor results on clay are only poor relative to his results on other surfaces).  Let's hope for lots of bonuses.  yay
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Re: Andy's 2013 clay court season « Reply #43 on: April 04, 2013, 07:12 PM »
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Oh....I'm determined to enjoy every moment!
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Re: Andy's 2013 clay court season « Reply #44 on: April 04, 2013, 10:34 PM »
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Yes Andy said in his post-match interview with Sky (I think) that  he'd take 3-4 days off, train on the clay courts in Miami and then fly to MC next Wednesday.   I'm so glad he decided not to play DC as it would have given him no time to train on clay.  And he'll probably enter MC with less recent clay experience (either match or training) than any of the other top players, after his exertions and achievements in Miami.
When he first announced not doing Davis Cup I was a little disappointed.  I understood why, and could see the sense, but it still seemed a bit of a shame.  Having seen Andy's Miami final, I'm not convinced he'd be fit for Davis Cup anyway.  The Russians are decent players and Andy couldn't risk a half-hearted effort and assume easy wins.  Never mind the issues about Andy wanting to adjust to clay.

I think because Andy has made a deliberate effort not to play all of the lucrative tournaments between Australia and Indian Wells in order to manage his schedule, he's earned his right to skip Davis Cup.
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