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Re: Andy at Cincinatti « Reply #90 on: August 12, 2012, 04:16 PM »
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LOL. You guys are ultra-sensitive. Even paranoid. For your information I was doing double backward somersaults (with pike) around the living room when Andy demolished Fed in the Wimbeldon final.
Get a grip people.
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Re: Andy at Cincinatti « Reply #91 on: August 12, 2012, 05:12 PM »
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lets hope Andy gets a good week under his belt.  semis or finals.  that would be great.    Very Happy.  Looking forward to the US open e even though I will miss the important matches.  heck I might miss all Of the matches.  hahaha. I'm weak  ok.  Sleep is basically my life Very Happy
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Re: Andy at Cincinatti « Reply #92 on: August 12, 2012, 05:39 PM »
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Just to be clear, Ive never won a Slam. Never even made a final for that matter. Im not saying Andy shouldn't be a bit tired,I just think we're going over the top. Im comparing him a bit to Djokovic or Nadal neither of whom seem to have the word "tired" in their vocabularly. But I guess that is the main reason these guys win so many Slams. I don't think they are better tennis players per se but I do think they are tougher than Andy both physically and mentally. I think Andy's mindset needs to change. Hopefully it already has with winning the Olympic gold!
Oh goodness, don't you even recognise sarcasm when you see it?   I really don't see anything wrong with a player admitting to feeling tired.  What has that got to do with Andy's mindset anyway.  Federer was very good at pulling out of tournaments saying that he had to rest, yet that didn't stop him achieving what he has achieved.

LOL. You guys are ultra-sensitive. Even paranoid. For your information I was doing double backward somersaults (with pike) around the living room when Andy demolished Fed in the Wimbeldon final.
Get a grip people.
I think it's you who needs to get a grip and let us know exactly where you stand rather than posting what has often come across as being anti-Murray sentiments.


Re Teejay1's post. Agree with it all - particularly about him doing what is right for him, rather than us, and for all of us to recognise the difference. Personally what ever happens with the US Open is okay by me. He and Mr L have delivered enough to show he is heading at a rate of knots in the right direction. I suspect that there is even more work to be done. A Wimbledon Final for the first time and a Gold Medal at the Olympics is a good 8 months work by any standards. The next GS final he is in (whether that is in a few weeks or next year), will be a known quantity, and hence easier for him to deal with.

As for not being exhausted it would be ridiculous if he were not. Let's not under estimate the pressure the poor sod's been under from the Great British Public. That, at least should be easier for him now they perceive him to have delivered the goods.

Fed can't go on much longer, and I think the fact his stamina is decreasing is the first sign, he is obviously not out yet, but the signs are there. Ditto Nadal - whatever is going on there is does not seem to be good for him. Mr M still has another 5 years in him, if all goes well.

We have had an Olympic Singles Gold Medal - lets not get too greedy too soon. A fortnight ago we all would have been delighted at a single bronze medal. Let him progress at his own pace. He seems to know what he is doing.
I agree with all of that Masaka.   Winning an Olympic gold was an incredible achievement and one which is good enough for me at the moment.  It's been a major turning point in his career and one which he and Lendl can build on.  The main thing is that it's given Andy the belief he needed that he can win on the big occasions, but I think Wimbledon and the Olympics have left him emotionally drained, so whether he'll have enough left in the tank to win the USO, especially if he plays here and wins, remains to be seen.  Djokovic had his big Eureka moment when he helped Serbia win the Davis Cup in 2010, but that came at the end of the season and he had the benefit of a few weeks' rest before the start of the AO.
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Re: Andy at Cincinatti « Reply #93 on: August 12, 2012, 05:42 PM »
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Just to be clear, Ive never won a Slam. Never even made a final for that matter. Im not saying Andy shouldn't be a bit tired,I just think we're going over the top. Im comparing him a bit to Djokovic or Nadal neither of whom seem to have the word "tired" in their vocabularly. But I guess that is the main reason these guys win so many Slams. I don't think they are better tennis players per se but I do think they are tougher than Andy both physically and mentally. I think Andy's mindset needs to change. Hopefully it already has with winning the Olympic gold!

Nadal often has a post-USO slump because of fatigue after the clay court season + Wimbledon + US hard courts. It's natural for the top players, whoever they are, to feel tired after playing a full schedule. Andy and Federer will be more tired than most right now, because Andy played singles and mixed doubles, whilst Federer had that ultra-long match with Del Potro in the Olympics semis. I'm sure they'll both be in top form during the US Open though.
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Re: Andy at Cincinatti « Reply #94 on: August 12, 2012, 05:52 PM »
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Nadal often has a post-USO slump because of fatigue after the clay court season + Wimbledon + US hard courts. It's natural for the top players, whoever they are, to feel tired after playing a full schedule. Andy and Federer will be more tired than most right now, because Andy played singles and mixed doubles, whilst Federer had that ultra-long match with Del Potro in the Olympics semis. I'm sure they'll both be in top form during the US Open though.
This year has been harder than most because of the Olympics, so I think all the top players will be feeling it come the USO, and that could mean a few disappointing results.  Absolutely insane scheduling on the part of the ATP.  They'll have the same problem again in 2016 and have promised "to look into it", but I won't be holding my breath!
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Re: Andy at Cincinatti « Reply #95 on: August 12, 2012, 07:12 PM »
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Nadal often has a post-USO slump because of fatigue after the clay court season + Wimbledon + US hard courts. It's natural for the top players, whoever they are, to feel tired after playing a full schedule. Andy and Federer will be more tired than most right now, because Andy played singles and mixed doubles, whilst Federer had that ultra-long match with Del Potro in the Olympics semis. I'm sure they'll both be in top form during the US Open though.

It's natural for the top players to be tired. It's not so much about whether as professional athletes they should or shouldn't let tiredness affect their game, it's the simple fact that a lot of the players they come up against are fresher. If Murray had played Raonic this week then even though Murray is a better player (last match not withstanding) Raonic obviously has his chances improved by Murray's effort at Wimbledon.

You can be the fittest player in the world, but it's still going to put you at a disadvantage to your opponent.
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Re: Andy at Cincinatti « Reply #96 on: August 12, 2012, 07:15 PM »
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ALL EYES ON GOLD MEDAL WINNER ANDY MURRAY
SATURDAY, AUGUST 11, 2012 AT 8:48PM


by JAMES HENRY

CINCINNATI – All eyes were on Olympic champion Andy Murray as he began practicing at the Western & Southern Open in Cincinnati.

But none were as fixated as those of his coach, eight-time Grand Slam singles winner Ivan Lendl.

“Great serve,” he said to his protégé, who defeated ATP World Tour No. 1 Roger Federer to claim the Olympic title.

As another ball zoomed through the court: “Great serve.”

“I can tell that one by the toss,” Lendl said.

“Yep,” he said matter-of-factly as another serve hit its mark.

After a while, Lendl, the champion in Cincinnati in 1982, said he would try to return the serves and, if he did, told Murray to then put the balls away.

“Kill it,” he urged.



Fans were excited to see the Olympic gold medal winner. 

After Murray sneezed, several simultaneously said, “Bless you.” The crowd, in turn, erupted in laughter.

Murray, who withdrew from the Rogers Cup because of a knee injury, displayed consistency as he trained.

While practice partner Viktor Troicki worked on his volleys, Murray reached around his back and between his legs to return a ball.

The crowd applauded. And one fan yelled, “Gold medal, baby!”

The fans also cheered as Murray rushed into the court to get to a drop shot.

Murray, the champion in 2008 and 2011, is seeded third at this year’s tournament. In his first match, he will play either Jürgen Melzer or Sam Querrey.

Troicki will take on a lucky loser since John Isner has withdrawn from the tournament.

James Henry is a contributing writer for OnTheGoTennis and is currently in Cincinnati covering the tournament.  To follow him on Twitter click here.


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Re: Andy at Cincinatti « Reply #97 on: August 12, 2012, 10:01 PM »
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Thanks for posting MM - sounds encouraging!
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Re: Andy at Cincinatti « Reply #98 on: August 12, 2012, 10:06 PM »
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Thanks MM
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Re: Andy at Cincinatti « Reply #99 on: August 13, 2012, 12:13 AM »
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Thanks MM - Just love these words "Olympic Gold Medal Winner".  I don't think it's quite sunk in with me yet, never mind Andy. Smile  Sounds as though he's won a lot more fans in the US too and isn't above playing to the gallery by doing a 'tweener'. lol

The main thing though is that Andy's fitness doesn't seem to be in doubt, at least as far as the knee problem goes.
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Re: Andy at Cincinatti « Reply #100 on: August 13, 2012, 06:47 AM »
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Thamx MM.  clap Like Aileen I can't read "Olympic Gold Medal Winner" often enough. yay
Also really like Ivan's coaching style, "kill it." Exactly right. thumb up
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Re: Andy at Cincinatti « Reply #101 on: August 13, 2012, 07:57 AM »
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Murray: "To play on grass for 8 weeks, by the end of it I was playing very, very good tennis. I wish the grass-court season was longer."

Murray on Lendl: "I hope we work together for quite a few more years. He seems very motivated, I am very motivated and I hope it continues."

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Re: Andy at Cincinatti « Reply #102 on: August 13, 2012, 08:58 AM »
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I like the way Andy so often refers to his team.  Is it my imagination or has he been doing that more just recently and if so might it be the experience of being part of Team GB rubbing off?  Probably am just imagining it but it's as if he is wanting to think of himself as part of a team rather than a lone individual.
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Re: Andy at Cincinatti « Reply #103 on: August 13, 2012, 09:03 AM »
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Thanks MM - Just love these words "Olympic Gold Medal Winner".  I don't think it's quite sunk in with me yet, never mind Andy. Smile  Sounds as though he's won a lot more fans in the US too and isn't above playing to the gallery by doing a 'tweener'. lol

The main thing though is that Andy's fitness doesn't seem to be in doubt, at least as far as the knee problem goes.

Same. I'll say i again ''gold medal winner'' Was a magical Olympics & that final was certainly my golden moment. I think we can all get used to this adulation of Andy!!
Glad it sems his injury has not got any worse. I thought it was just precautionary. He's had a mini rest now so lets see how he responds to the highs of the past few weeks.
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Re: Andy at Cincinatti « Reply #104 on: August 13, 2012, 02:32 PM »
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Yes, great int'it ''gold medal winner'' . I'd just like to add about previous comments on tiredness, Mo Farah said that he was still tired 3 days after his 10,000 meter race, but still went on to win the 5000!
Andy winning gold & silver was my favorite Olympic moment, followed by Mo Farah and the Brownlee brothers in the triathlon. The Brownlee boys like nothing better than a 'good scrap', I'll be following their progress from now on.
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