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Re: Andy at the Madrid Masters « Reply #15 on: May 03, 2013, 11:41 PM »
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Simon won't beat Chardy or Zeballos.
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Re: Andy at the Madrid Masters « Reply #16 on: May 04, 2013, 01:05 AM »
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Simon won't beat Chardy or Zeballos.

Now you are just babbling. :p
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Re: Andy at the Madrid Masters « Reply #17 on: May 04, 2013, 01:49 AM »
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Not when it leaves for two interpretation. Besides, I thought you were always against 'draws are rigged' theory. 
I've always maintained that there is some definite tweaking involved where the top players are concerned.
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Re: Andy at the Madrid Masters « Reply #18 on: May 04, 2013, 02:25 AM »
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Now you are just babbling. :p

How so? Simon is rubbish, his form has sucked this year. Both Zeballos and Chardy are seasoned clay courters, they could easily own Simon.
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Re: Andy at the Madrid Masters « Reply #19 on: May 04, 2013, 02:55 AM »
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Not that you can necessarily go by what happened two years ago, but Simon beat Chardy 3-1 at RG in 2011.  Also he's got a new coach now, so that might help improve his form, albeit a bit late for Madrid.
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Re: Andy at the Madrid Masters « Reply #20 on: May 04, 2013, 07:51 AM »
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After MC I admit have no expectations here, although I don't relish the prospect of a first match exit.

Do feel that the worship of Federer has diminished of late and in Spain they will want to see their Spanish players and Nole because he is looking so good. Better to move on and treat RF as someone from the past. I think that on clay he will now start to struggle. Noticably slower to reach balls so plays far more shots too late and so now misses more.  Might be a few that have a liking for Andy just because he trained there and can be exciting on his day. I agree that the Ferrer/Nadal quarter look hard with Almagro in it too with some unpredictables like Youzhny and Haas. In fact all the others can have good or bad days and cause upsets!  When do we see the top seeds start to play, Tuesday or Wednesday?

Andy needs match practice in my opinion. There is no substitute for feeling the pressure and having the excitement of competing. He needs to try to destroy lesser opposition rather than "play himself in" to get confidence. Looks a little short in that area at starts of tournaments. He should though make quarters? I hope so then he will have a better chance at RG.
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Re: Andy at the Madrid Masters « Reply #21 on: May 04, 2013, 08:06 AM »
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Better to move on and treat RF as someone from the past. 

Is this the same RF who demolished Andy 6 months ago on London?
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Re: Andy at the Madrid Masters « Reply #22 on: May 04, 2013, 08:08 AM »
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Andy's potential route in Madrid: 1R - Bye, 2R - Bellucci/Mayer, 3R - Simon, QF - Berdych/Tipsarevic, SF - Djokovic, F - Federer/Nadal.

Berdych is the one that scares me most even though his form's been off quite a bit recently.

Who is Bye? Sounds Korean or Chinese. I can't see Andy having much problem reaching the 2nd round but Bellucci/Mayer will be very tricky.
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Re: Andy at the Madrid Masters « Reply #23 on: May 04, 2013, 08:28 AM »
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Is this the same RF who demolished Andy 6 months ago on London?
That is a bit of an exaggeration, surely the demolition happened in the Olympics. Fed lost the first set at Wimbledon, and only when the roof came over and conditions changed did Fed win, whereas Andy didn't drop a set!!
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Re: Andy at the Madrid Masters « Reply #24 on: May 04, 2013, 09:13 AM »
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That is a bit of an exaggeration, surely the demolition happened in the Olympics. Fed lost the first set at Wimbledon, and only when the roof came over and conditions changed did Fed win, whereas Andy didn't drop a set!!

I agree with that although Andy then was not as mentally tough for instance as when he beat Ferrer in the heat. Sorry that I started another RF debate!

I hate the sycophantic support for past idols when it is quite clear that they are no longer as good. Time to support the new! If RF has a bad couple of tournaments he will as I said previously plummet in the rankings and fail in the race to London. His strategy to play majors and only a few events is risky.  I like to watch the newer more exciting players. That's it.
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Re: Andy at the Madrid Masters « Reply #25 on: May 04, 2013, 09:35 AM »
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Who is Bye? Sounds Korean or Chinese.

You having a laugh or being serious?? Lol Wink
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Re: Andy at the Madrid Masters « Reply #26 on: May 04, 2013, 10:08 AM »
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as andy has no points to challenge lets hop he will do well here and in rome to secure his number 2 position ready for the french open
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Re: Andy at the Madrid Masters « Reply #27 on: May 04, 2013, 10:40 AM »
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You having a laugh or being serious?? Lol Wink
Had assumed former angie but then read 2nd sentence - andy shouldn't have too much problem getting to 2nd round and began to wonder.  But perhaps that was just bn being sarcastic again?  
Like others don't like the sight of Berdych in the draw but who knows he(Birdy) might not even make the QF given his recent form.  And I certainly won't be counting any chickens as far as our man is concerned.  Still we can't expect him to be able to cruise through a major without any significant opposition and he needs some good matches to steel him for RG.
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Re: Andy at the Madrid Masters « Reply #28 on: May 04, 2013, 12:15 PM »
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Andy and Rafa are going to practice together for 2 hours today - hopefully this should help Andy. Smile
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Re: Andy at the Madrid Masters « Reply #29 on: May 04, 2013, 12:37 PM »
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Since Andy joined the main tour he's played about 125 different opponents I think.  He has a losing record to only 4 players currently on the tour (Djokovic, Nadal, Robredo and Bellucci). He has a tied record against another 11 (Anderson 1-1, Berdych 4-4, Fish 4-4, Fognini 1-1, Haase 1-1, Janowicz 1-1, Kohlschreiber 1-1, Lee 1-1, Mahut 1-1, Monaco 2-2 and Raonic 2-2). Not playing this coming week are Fish, Kohlschreiber, Lee, Mahut and Haase unless he gets through qualifying which leaves 6.

So in his quarter he may have to play Bellucci and any 1 of 4 of those 6 before tackling Djoko and then Rafa if it all goes to form.

Quite a tough week I'd say.
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