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Andy at the Madrid Masters

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So little faith in your man. Whistle
Realism. When was the last time he beat a top 10 player on clay? 2009?
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He has more faith in Nole. He was sure Nole was going to come out in 3 sets against Dimitrov today.
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Realism. When was the last time he beat a top 10 player on clay? 2009?
But saying he WON'T is bit much.  Whistle
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Realism. When was the last time he beat a top 10 player on clay? 2009?

You're confusing realism with pessimism. Yeah, his chances of getting far here might not be great but there is enough time to dwell over bad results after another loss.
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Realism in sport  Think
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You're confusing realism with pessimism. Yeah, his chances of getting far here might not be great but there is enough time to dwell over bad results after another loss.

If there is another loss. I'm all for realism, whatever that means in sport, but I think we are too keen to write Andy off. He's not some untried, untested kid, he's one if the top players in the world. When he loses, IF he loses, some can talk about his lack of clay credentials to their hearts content, but until then how about we just watch him play?
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Hear, hear!
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If there is another loss. I'm all for realism, whatever that means in sport, but I think we are too keen to write Andy off. He's not some untried, untested kid, he's one if the top players in the world. When he loses, IF he loses, some can talk about his lack of clay credentials to their hearts content, but until then how about we just watch him play?

I'm with you Teejay.
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If everything were to happen based on the past then we would have been living in a very predictable and determined world. I mean there were some very sold predictions by many that Andy was never going to win a Slam and that was based on the so called 'realism' and 'facts' based on the past.

The sun will always rise on the east and that's reality and a fact. Andy will always lose to a top tenner on clay is a false fact, because his past is not based on a clear reality or a solid fact. In fact, it's always subject to change. I hope people understand the difference when they bring 'realism' into it.
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But MH is a good poster, great poster in fact so I obviously don't mean only him but in general.
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But saying he WON'T is bit much.  Whistle
When did I say he won't? I offered my opinion. Your entitled to yours.
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If everything were to happen based on the past then we would have been living in a very predictable and determined world. I mean there were some very sold predictions by many that Andy was never going to win a Slam and that was based on the so called 'realism' and 'facts' based on the past.

The sun will always rise on the east and that's reality and a fact. Andy will always lose to a top tenner on clay is a false fact, because his past is not based on a clear reality or a solid fact. In fact, it's always subject to change. I hope people understand the difference when they bring 'realism' into it.
I'm not arguing that. However I would suggest it is fairly realistic to suggest that, given his relatively poor clay credentials, the chances are not in his favour of beating Simon, Berdych and Wawrinka/Tsonga in succession.

Way I'm looking at this clay season is no expectations, so anything gained is a bonus. I would be over the moon if he makes the final, and it would be all the sweeter with lowered expectations. That's not to say I wouldn't be disappointed or frustrated with a defeat, before anyone brings this up after his next loss.
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^ Yep. Agree on all points.
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Yes  Mad Hatter but as long as Andy keeps trying I'm keeping optimistic I feel sure he'll beat Simon,after that who knows?  One match at a time is the only way
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