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Re: Andy in Barcelona « Reply #75 on: April 22, 2012, 04:09 PM »
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I would never support a player because of his nationality. That concept is totally lost on me.

The game itself comes first to me, personality second. A lot of the cases, personality doesn't even matter all that much.
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Re: Andy in Barcelona « Reply #76 on: April 22, 2012, 04:16 PM »
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I wasn't saying it was only personality that counted with me.  I've supported a few not very well liked tennis players in the past, and present, because I can see beyond the person and admire their tennis skills.

However, although success is success no matter what the nationality, it does give things that extra edge if they happen to be one of my own.
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Re: Andy in Barcelona « Reply #77 on: April 22, 2012, 04:22 PM »
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I really hate it when people say  the whole British English Scottish thing  He's British win he's winning and Scottish when he's losing    it just annoys me so much  ranting  and then people say Andy is boring most ugly human being on the planet. Frown and say he looks so depressed interviews.  well wtf do you want him to do in a interview.. the Macarena?   I wouldn't like to do like 6 plus interviews every tournament. You know  its not like every tennis player skips into a interview with a happy smile on their face  They just tell the truth and tell us what they have been improving.  They ask the same questions.  Interviews aren't meant to be spectacular all the time.  Sharapova, Serena, Nole, and some other players. They aren't  exactly fooling around and being joyful  in interviews all the time.
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Re: Andy in Barcelona « Reply #78 on: April 22, 2012, 04:35 PM »
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All I can say is that, certainly when it comes to sporting achievements, I'm proud to be Scottish and equally proud to be British.  Come the Olympics I'll have a lump in my throat for whichever Brit is standing on the "gold" podium whilst the union flag is flying and the national anthem playing.
I really don't do the whole UK thing and find it really difficult to get stirred up about it, I think a lot of that is due to the very heavy English media who sometimes think an event like the olympics is just about the Englsh participants, but I recognise that is due to the spin put on it by the media.  I hope they do well but know that some of the media coverage will irk big time.  The only bit I will be watching is the tennis. 
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Re: Andy in Barcelona « Reply #79 on: April 22, 2012, 04:39 PM »
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I really hate it when people say  the whole British English Scottish thing  He's British win he's winning and Scottish when he's losing    it just annoys me so much  ranting  and then people say Andy is boring most ugly human being on the planet. Frown and say he looks so depressed interviews.  well wtf do you want him to do in a interview.. the Macarena?   I wouldn't like to do like 6 plus interviews every tournament. You know  its not like every tennis player skips into a interview with a happy smile on their face  They just tell the truth and tell us what they have been improving.  They ask the same questions.  Interviews aren't meant to be spectacular all the time.  Sharapova, Serena, Nole, and some other players. They aren't  exactly fooling around and being joyful  in interviews all the time.
Good posting!

Totally agree, the media cannot wait to bring him down, after the AO final in 2011, a Scottish paper did a timeline on the commentary and basically by the end of the first set Andy had stopped being British and was vey firmly Scottish!!! 
Tennis is Andy's job, I am pretty sure if I went into my office each and every day singing, dancing and being full of merriment it would not be long before I was either drug tested or sacked!!!!
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Re: Andy in Barcelona « Reply #80 on: April 22, 2012, 05:04 PM »
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I wasn't saying it was only personality that counted with me.  I've supported a few not very well liked tennis players in the past, and present, because I can see beyond the person and admire their tennis skills.

However, although success is success no matter what the nationality, it does give things that extra edge if they happen to be one of my own.

Personality matters of course. Federer has a nice game but when you become aware of his personality, it takes that liking away from you, but still, I've seen in his case at least, a lot of the people were able to put their feelings aside and appreciate his tennis. But then again, he could have had just a dull personality like Sampras and some people wouldn't have liked that either.

Nationality is just a narrow concept that has more cons than pros. I mean this Scottish/British thing is just a prime example for this and when I read about it, it just plain gives me a headache. I want to be proud of any person of his/her deeds regardless where he/she was born. I just fail to see how that's important I guess. Just don't see myself liking Raonic more than Andy even if Raonic were a raging success but then again, people are different. 
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Re: Andy in Barcelona « Reply #81 on: April 22, 2012, 05:07 PM »
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I agree MM as far as I am concerned Andy is Scottish as he say happens to be the British number one. But I do object when the press keep calling him names like a Scottish twat and worse. Then you have those who say on face book eg He hates us so we hate him they are so stupid. There is always going to be rivalrey between English and Scottish supporters there always will be.
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Re: Andy in Barcelona « Reply #82 on: April 22, 2012, 05:18 PM »
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Personality matters of course. Federer has a nice game but when you become aware of his personality, it takes that liking away from you, but still, I've seen in his case at least, a lot of the people were able to put their feelings aside and appreciate his tennis. But then again, he could have had just a dull personality like Sampras and some people wouldn't have liked that either.

Nationality is just a narrow concept that has more cons than pros. I mean this Scottish/British thing is just a prime example for this and when I read about it, it just plain gives me a headache. I want to be proud of any person of his/her deeds regardless where he/she was born. I just fail to see how that's important I guess. Just don't see myself liking Raonic more than Andy even if Raonic were a raging success but then again, people are different. 

I think you have to be British to understand the Scottish/British or Scottish/English thing - although having said that I'm not sure that a lot of either Scottish or English people do understand it!  Basically it goes back for hundreds of years.  The Scots, Welsh and Irish are of Celtic origin whereas the English are of Germanic Anglo-Saxon origin, so I suppose you could say that it's in the blood.
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Re: Andy in Barcelona « Reply #83 on: April 22, 2012, 05:21 PM »
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Berdych's pulled out of Barcelona with a shoulder injury.
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Re: Andy in Barcelona « Reply #84 on: April 22, 2012, 05:25 PM »
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Berdych's pulled out of Barcelona with a shoulder injury.
Wonder when he picked that up?  He certainly showed no sign of it playing either Andy or Djokovic ... Think
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Re: Andy in Barcelona « Reply #85 on: April 22, 2012, 06:07 PM »
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Am I to understand that Marcus has resigned or been permanently replaced as the main character in Sky's TV coverage?

I hope not.  I used to like his banter.
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Re: Andy in Barcelona « Reply #86 on: April 22, 2012, 06:22 PM »
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Wonder when he picked that up?  He certainly showed no sign of it playing either Andy or Djokovic ... Think
No I didn't notice any signs in his matches either. Perhaps he's been feeling a little pain and just wants to protect it for Madrid/Rome by not overplaying before then.

I hope not.  I used to like his banter.
I'm hoping that Marcus has just taken an extended holiday over the Easter period and that he will be back. Always like his presenting style - he knows his tennis and doesn't take himself too seriously either.
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Re: Andy in Barcelona « Reply #87 on: April 22, 2012, 07:01 PM »
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Or, to be a bit cynical, he's changed his mind about playing Barcelona or is a little tired and is using the shoulder thing as an excuse to avoid being penalised.
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Re: Andy in Barcelona « Reply #88 on: April 22, 2012, 07:12 PM »
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Berdych's pulled out of Barcelona with a shoulder injury.
Bit gutted about that, would have loved Andy to have another chance of playing him, am sure the result may have been different, as it is so often is when Andy has suffered a defeat. 
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Re: Andy in Barcelona « Reply #89 on: April 22, 2012, 08:15 PM »
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I would never support a player because of his nationality. That concept is totally lost on me.

The game itself comes first to me, personality second. A lot of the cases, personality doesn't even matter all that much.
Not sure if I entirely agree - its a bit like supporting a family member, they carry a bit of your culture and shared experience. Sort of represent you in a way.
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