Katie
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Andy Murray - Olympic and USO champion! :)
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Hmm I wonder. If so why didn't he tell them sooneer? I'd have preferred fed in the SF too, assuming Andy gets that far. But I'm torn as part of me doesn't want Andy having to go straight from a final in Paris to WTF but nor do I want him beaten by Birdy [or anyone else come to that] just before WTF.
He said it was a last-minute decision (though he was talking about it even before Basel so not sure if I believe him). It definitely seems like his achievements this season have taken it out of him so skipping Paris makes sense. I don't see him being the same force at the WTF that he was in 2010 and 2011 this time round though. It'll be interesting to see how the top guys do in Paris as traditionally there's lots of early exits. I don't think Andy's ever made it to the SF there? |
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TheMadHatter
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He said it was a last-minute decision (though he was talking about it even before Basel so not sure if I believe him). It definitely seems like his achievements this season have taken it out of him so skipping Paris makes sense. I don't see him being the same force at the WTF that he was in 2010 and 2011 this time round though.
It'll be interesting to see how the top guys do in Paris as traditionally there's lots of early exits. I don't think Andy's ever made it to the SF there?
It's the only Masters he's never made it past the QFs isn't it? |
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Aileen
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I'm torn as part of me doesn't want Andy having to go straight from a final in Paris to WTF but nor do I want him beaten by Birdy [or anyone else come to that] just before WTF.
I agree Ruthie. It's quite a dilemma. |
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Katie
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Andy Murray - Olympic and USO champion! :)
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It's the only Masters he's never made it past the QFs isn't it?
Yeah I think so - it's surprising that he's not done as well here as he's usually good indoors. I guess the timing of the tournament doesn't help. |
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This has implications for the rankings, doesn't it? Fed was defending Paris.
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Aileen
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It's the only Masters he's never made it past the QFs isn't it?
Surely not? Off the top of my head, I remember Andy going out rather ignominiously in his first match in IW last year and followed that up with a similar exit in Miami. |
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Victor Hanescu will replace Federer in the main draw. So everything else stays the same.
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Surely not? Off the top of my head, I remember Andy going out rather ignominiously in his first match in IW last year and followed that up with a similar exist in Miami.
Andy made the final of IW against Nadal in 09. Made the finals of Miami in 09 and '11 against Nole. |
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Aileen
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So really the only players who'll it affect (and I'm sure they're rubbing their hands with glee) will be those who could have faced the prospect of playing Fed before the SF?
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Nole a certain No 1 now  I want Andy to do really well at the WTF. Last year people were all saying that he was the only player who could take it to Fed there and then of course he got injured. |
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Aileen
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Andy made the final of IW against Nadal in 09. Made the finals of Miami in 09 and '11 against Nole.
Yes, but unless I've misunderstood, MH said that "Paris is the only Masters he's never made it past the QFs isn't it?" - and that's what I was responding to. Also whilst he lost to Nadal in IW he defeated Nole in Miami. |
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TheMadHatter
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Yes, but unless I've misunderstood, MH said that "Paris is the only Masters he's never made it past the QFs isn't it?" - and that's what I was responding to.
Yes, as in he's made the semi-finals or better of all the other Masters one year or another, but has never gone further than the quarter-finals in Paris. |
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So really the only players who'll it affect (and I'm sure they're rubbing their hands with glee) will be those who could have faced the prospect of playing Fed before the SF?
Yes. And this LL is especially lucky since he got a 1st round bye on top of everything. |
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This means Nole is #1 for year end.  And this also means that #2 is getting very close for Andy: Fed is at 9465 and Andy is at 7510.  That’s a difference of 1955, but when we subtract Fed’s 1000 points from Paris last year, as well as Andy’s 180 points points from Paris last year, that cuts the point difference to 1135 points. Murray has nothing to defend at WTF (he played only one match, which he lost, and then he pulled out); Fed has 1500 points to defend. Depending on what happens at WTF and pre-AO next year, there’s a slight chance that Andy could be seeded #2 at the AO, although he has 250 to defend at Brisbane and Fed has only 90 to defend at Doha. So it’s likely Fed will still have #2 for the AO. But it’s getting very close. 
Are these numbers correct?? |
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^ Those are the race rakings. Nothing gets substracted from them. In order for Andy to get to #2, he would have to win Paris and the WTFs while Fed has to lose at least one RR match in London and doesn't get further than the semis.
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