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Re: Cincinnati 2014 « Reply #90 on: August 12, 2014, 05:42 PM »
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J.W up 4-0 3rd set
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Re: Cincinnati 2014 « Reply #91 on: August 12, 2014, 05:43 PM »
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5-0 game away
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Re: Cincinnati 2014 « Reply #92 on: August 12, 2014, 05:44 PM »
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I'm glad it's not just me following the Wardy match.  C'mon!!!! cmon yeah
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Re: Cincinnati 2014 « Reply #93 on: August 12, 2014, 05:44 PM »
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5-0 game away
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Re: Cincinnati 2014 « Reply #94 on: August 12, 2014, 05:48 PM »
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5-1 Jame serving for match
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Re: Cincinnati 2014 « Reply #95 on: August 12, 2014, 05:50 PM »
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I'm glad it's not just me following the Wardy match.  C'mon!!!! cmon yeah
   It's not! Grateful to you guys for the updates.
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Re: Cincinnati 2014 « Reply #96 on: August 12, 2014, 05:52 PM »
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James Ward wins 6-2, 3-6, 6-1!
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Re: Cincinnati 2014 « Reply #97 on: August 12, 2014, 06:03 PM »
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According to Dan King it's his first Masters level win.  Actually, he said it's the first time he's into the 2nd round, which isn't strictly true, because he replaced a seed as LL, so got their bye.
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Re: Cincinnati 2014 « Reply #98 on: August 12, 2014, 06:07 PM »
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Wardy you little ripper  yay
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Re: Cincinnati 2014 « Reply #99 on: August 12, 2014, 06:46 PM »
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Congrats James! Keep going so Andy wont be alone!
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Re: Cincinnati 2014 « Reply #100 on: August 12, 2014, 07:30 PM »
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No. I was in some ways defending posts from MW's members, which on the surface appear negative, but on further look are either critical, but supportive of Andy and maybe deemed to be realistic of his immediate successes.
Thanks for explaining OSS....Much appreciated!
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Re: Cincinnati 2014 « Reply #101 on: August 12, 2014, 07:33 PM »
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Well done James Ward!  Very Happy
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Re: Cincinnati 2014 « Reply #102 on: August 12, 2014, 07:39 PM »
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Wardy well played Smile
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Re: Cincinnati 2014 « Reply #103 on: August 12, 2014, 11:07 PM »
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I see that with the US Open seedings to be based on 18th August Andy can end up seeded anywhere between 7( very unlikely) and 11 there. For top eight he would need Gregor to have a very bad event in Cincinnati and for himself to win it (I think). As you see with JWT, getting into that top eight is what is needed for the 500 and 1000 events to avoid the top ten players early on.

Changes to this already. Tsonga losing keeps Andy ranked at 9 next week unless Gulbis does something really special and Andy loses very quickly too. Not a lot of chance of either? Then if Grigor goes out quickly THIS WEEK then Andy has a small chance of overtaking him and getting to be ranked 8. Grigor plays Jerzy J in R2 so I expect him to win.

I feel sorry for JWT but losing after a massive win is the norm for the "nearly men". No insult intended but if one of the very top players wins a tournament then you always expect them to follow up with another? That is the difference.
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Re: Cincinnati 2014 « Reply #104 on: August 12, 2014, 11:14 PM »
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Last point. Anderson who had a good run in Washington I think lost quickly in Cincinnati to Isner. Playing at top level all the time is hard.

My main idea (always has been) is that a top eight player has an easier route than a lower ranked one so has a better chance to win and gather more points. This is why it is useful to have a back-up event and not play the minimum number of tournaments. Sometimes as we know Andy gets knocked out early for no obvious reason other than the player opposite does really well! It happens.

There is an advantage trying to stay in top eight all year so that then a player also goes to the O2 WTC event and earns yet more points.

And my last point.   Of course there is an advantage to being in the top eight.   But that is different to saying it is "needed" to win a tournament.
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