Andy Murray vs Facundo Arguello, Monday, Time TBA - Discuss the match
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Consecutive Slam Semi-Finals

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Philip, Soderling also played like that when he beat Rafa and did so well at RG. And his movement is poor.
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I agree BBH. When Soderling is hitting the ball cleanly, with his brute strength, he can also blast the clay courters out of the court lol

His game needs the ball to bounce up for him to whack it hard.

However, he is too one dimensional to be able to cope well with low slices, short angle balls etc.. to progress deep into the FO.
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If Andy can pick up a tournament win on clay he will have won on all surfaces, and that includes carpet!!
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that includes carpet!!

Where do they play on carpet?
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Where do they play on carpet?

I think Valencia and Basel are carpet.
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ATP website has Basel as 'indoor hard'.. and Valencia as 'hard'.. I think ATP changed surfaces in 2009?
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ATP website has Basel as 'indoor hard'.. and Valencia as 'hard'.


Hmmm... There used to be a few tournaments at the end of the year that were on carpet. Maybe they did away with them. Think
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Sorry Joe.. I just edited my previous post.  I said I think ATP changed surfaces 2009.
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I remember he used to say on the ATP site that it was his favorite surface.
Yes, I remember him saying that too. And I remember thinking, "Well do a bit b****y better on it then!"
lol I used to think along the same lines!  After all, he did all his training at the Academy in Barcelona on it, so ...? Shrug

The problem with clay is that a) the bounce is lower,  b) ability to slide correctly into position is important  and c) the ball moves slower after the bounce giving more time for defender to recover their position

This means that someone who puts more top spin into the ball (like Nadal) and can slide properly will have more success.  

Last year Nole was able to break this trend by hitting the ball cleanly near the baseline, taking the time away from the clay courters and blasted them off court.

If Andy is able to improve his sliding, and duplicate Nole baseline hugging, clean ball striking technique, then there is no reason why he can't do well on clay this year.  I look forward with eager anticipation as Andy excellent results last year shows he has come to grip with the red dirt Smile
This really answers all 3 above posts.  Andy has a problem other players do not have - his right bi-partite patella.  He's said himself that this condition (and why, oh why, did something that affects only about 1% of the population have to happen to such a talented player?) is aggravated by certain movements, particularly those involved in playing on clay, and unfortunately sliding to his RH side is one of them.  Therefore that is all the more reason to feel proud of what Andy has achieved, especially on clay.  He got to the SF at RG last year with an injured ankle as well, so this year, with Lendl at his side plus his own perseverance on that surface, I reckon anything is possible.
 
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There are about 5/6 tournaments that are played on carpet including Basel and Paris Masters.

Both Berdych and Youzhny have won their carpet titles this past week.
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There are about 5/6 tournaments that are played on carpet including Paris Masters.

I would never have known that was carpet from looking at it.
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I would never have known that was carpet from looking at it.
I've always found the idea of playing on a "carpet" rather intriguing - but then it isn't quite the stuff you would cover your livingroom floor with -

http://www.charleslawrencesurfaces.co.uk/downloads/indoor_sports_carpets.pdf
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Aileen Smile Must be easier on the old knees though?
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I would never have known that was carpet from looking at it.

From the distance that the TV cameras are, it wouldn't look any different to a normal hardcourt. My school used to have a carpeted indoor sports hall which I played basketball on a lot - nice surface with, bizarrely, a nice smell as I recall! lol
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Paris isn't played on carpet anymore - it's usually a fast indoor hardcourt though last year it had slowed down a lot.
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