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Latest News on Andy and Roland Garros « on: May 18, 2013, 01:30 PM »
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Just reported on 5 live that the decision will now be made on Wednesday and not over the weekend as previously communicated.  Looks like there is still some possibility of him playing and that the scans haven't shown anything too bad.
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Re: Latest News on Andy and Roland Garros « Reply #1 on: May 18, 2013, 01:37 PM »
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Just reported on 5 live that the decision will now be made on Wednesday and not over the weekend as previously communicated.  Looks like there is still some possibility of him playing and that the scans haven't shown anything too bad.

He probably just wants to see how it is during the upcoming days. He should try a practice session or two and take it from there. I really don't think it's that serious at all, he may have been grimacing, but it could have been the early stages of the injury during the match against Granollers and now 3 or 4 days down the line, he could have rested his back sufficiently to be able to get back on court.
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Re: Latest News on Andy and Roland Garros « Reply #2 on: May 18, 2013, 01:40 PM »
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Did they give an indication of the source, or is that just regurgitated from what's been said before?

It is possible that if it were really bad, they'd just come out and say, but then again, being vague about injuries seems to be the norm these days.  I don't think it's in a player's interests to have the rest of the tour knowing the details, and therefore, their vulnerabilities.
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Re: Latest News on Andy and Roland Garros « Reply #3 on: May 18, 2013, 01:43 PM »
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Did they give an indication of the source, or is that just regurgitated from what's been said before?

It is possible that if it were really bad, they'd just come out and say, but then again, being vague about injuries seems to be the norm these days.  I don't think it's in a player's interests to have the rest of the tour knowing the details, and therefore, their vulnerabilities.

Direct quote from Andy's agent.  They started by saying 'breaking Andy Murray news' I thought he'd withdrawn.   Russell Fuller then came on and said Andy's agent (Matt Gentle?) had just told him that the RG decision had been pushed out to Wednesday.  Fuller seemed to suggest that the injury was perhaps not as bad as first feared.
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Re: Latest News on Andy and Roland Garros « Reply #4 on: May 18, 2013, 01:49 PM »
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well it's encouraging that the scans haven't shown anything too bad but I hope he'll be taking specialist advice as to the advisability of possibly making it worse if he plays a series of 5-setters on clay.  Much as I'd like to see him at RG, he's not going to be able to prepare properly and his chances of going deep must be fairly slim given he's not had that much clay court match practice now and he's bound to be protecting his back, so I think it would be wiser not to chance it.  But I guess that's not Andy and if feels he can play, he will. 
Thanks for starting the thread for all us anxious Andy fans batz.
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Re: Latest News on Andy and Roland Garros « Reply #5 on: May 18, 2013, 03:11 PM »
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Could be taken two ways.

One, it's not looking good and Andy's delaying it as long as possible before pulling out in the hope it gets better.

Two, it's not as bad as feared and he wants a few days just to make sure he'll be fine.

So really inconclusive either way. Guess we'll just have to wait and see.
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Re: Latest News on Andy and Roland Garros « Reply #6 on: May 18, 2013, 03:27 PM »
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Neil Harman ‏@NeilHarmanTimes
Andy Murray likely to decide on whether to play Roland Garros on Wednesday. Seeking specialist's advice.
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Re: Latest News on Andy and Roland Garros « Reply #7 on: May 18, 2013, 04:02 PM »
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I'm glad he's seeking specialist's advice.  This all suggests he really wants to play but wants to be sure.  If he was looking for a way out, surely he'd withdraw now and use the scan as the justification for doing so.
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Re: Latest News on Andy and Roland Garros « Reply #8 on: May 18, 2013, 04:07 PM »
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He probably just wants to see how it is during the upcoming days. He should try a practice session or two and take it from there. I really don't think it's that serious at all, he may have been grimacing, but it could have been the early stages of the injury during the match against Granollers and now 3 or 4 days down the line, he could have rested his back sufficiently to be able to get back on court.

It's been going on since long before the Granollers match.    Remember "It's impossible to play like this"   I don't think he should even attempt Paris.    He thought a few days' rest after Madrid would help him in Rome but it didn't.
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Re: Latest News on Andy and Roland Garros « Reply #9 on: May 18, 2013, 04:11 PM »
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Direct quote from Andy's agent.  They started by saying 'breaking Andy Murray news' I thought he'd withdrawn.   Russell Fuller then came on and said Andy's agent (Matt Gentle?) had just told him that the RG decision had been pushed out to Wednesday.  Fuller seemed to suggest that the injury was perhaps not as bad as first feared.

Thanks, that's good to know. 

I'm always a bit sceptical when there are no sources involved.  I'm not doubting that you heard correctly, but so often these days, people in the media act like they are giving exclusive new information, when actually they are just repeating something they read on twitter, which they presume must be true, because three different people tweeted it, even though two just copied the first person, who got it from local radio, who were talking about something they'd read in a two day old copy of The Sun, which was based on a report published the day before on the BBC News, based on the original statement Andy gave after the match.

I say, it's good to keep them guessing, but even better to make sure he's making the right decision.  It's obviously a chronic problem, which is made worse by playing on clay and the nurturing part of me is thinking "it's not worth it!", while the competitive part of me is worrying about losing points and relinquishing the #2 spot to Fed again!   

Whichever option he takes will be a calculated risk.  If he enters, it will be in the hope of earning some valuable points, but how many would he hope to earn to make it worth it?  The longer he stays in, the more it will aggravate the injury, and the bigger risk to his play in the following weeks.

IMO, if there is any doubt, he should rest up, then start gentle training for the grass season.  If he's up to it, and especially if he's worried about missing match play, I'd have him entering doubles at Queens, boosting his match practice as well as those all important net skills.
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Re: Latest News on Andy and Roland Garros « Reply #10 on: May 18, 2013, 05:15 PM »
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It's been going on since long before the Granollers match.    Remember "It's impossible to play like this"   I don't think he should even attempt Paris.    He thought a few days' rest after Madrid would help him in Rome but it didn't.

Totally agree, why take the chance of messing up Wimbledon and lets not forget Queens and the charity match he has for Ross on final Sunday. I for one am now hoping he won't play Paris, as much as I miss him would prefer he's 100% going into grass season. Just seems too big a risk. Don't go Andy  no
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Re: Latest News on Andy and Roland Garros « Reply #11 on: May 18, 2013, 05:47 PM »
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I know my feeling is that perhaps he should not play RG but we do not have the details of the injury.  I just hope he listens to advice ths year but he did alright in spite of his team telling him not to play last year.  It would be a shame after all his hard work for him to slip back again in the rankings.
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Re: Latest News on Andy and Roland Garros « Reply #12 on: May 18, 2013, 06:08 PM »
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I'm glad he's seeking specialist's advice.  This all suggests he really wants to play but wants to be sure.  If he was looking for a way out, surely he'd withdraw now and use the scan as the justification for doing so.
I seem to recall this time last year, when he had all these injections, Andy said that he had consulted specialists and been assured that he wouldn't aggravate the injury by carrying on playing, and that he would have it properly attended to at the end of the season - then when that came along, and with two weeks' extra break, he heads off to Miami instead for his usual winter training.  I just don't understand it, and truly hope he hasn't made the problem worse by putting off getting the treatment he obviously needs.

Personally I'd far rather he skipped RG than risked missing Queens and Wimbledon - something he would find extremely disappointing and frustrating - but the decision isn't in our hands, and nor do we know exactly what's involved or even what the injury is.

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Re: Latest News on Andy and Roland Garros « Reply #13 on: May 18, 2013, 06:35 PM »
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Just wondered if Murray were to commit to RG be in the draw and than decide he's not fit enough to play and withdraws before 1st match is played would they move up the seed below Andy to have his draw or would they just place lucky loser in Andy's place?
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Re: Latest News on Andy and Roland Garros « Reply #14 on: May 18, 2013, 06:38 PM »
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Just wondered if Murray were to commit to RG be in the draw and than decide he's not fit enough to play and withdraws before 1st match is played would they move up the seed below Andy to have his draw or would they just place lucky loser in Andy's place?

Lucky Loser, it will probably be Monfils as he apparently hasn't got the WC.
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