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Mainstream media questioning the 'injury' « on: May 31, 2011, 10:00 PM »
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2011/may/31/andy-murray-french-viktor-troicki
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Re: Mainstream media questioning the 'injury' « Reply #1 on: May 31, 2011, 11:08 PM »
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'Whispers' is incredibly vague. Murray doesn't even address the apparent accusations directly. The article simply states that he was replying to accusations that he was faking, but provides no examples and no quotes in context.

So Murray is lying about all of the pills he has been taking and the test results? He must have a camp, a family and a circle of friends full of liars, in that case.

What utter nonsense.
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Re: Mainstream media questioning the 'injury' « Reply #2 on: May 31, 2011, 11:19 PM »
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'Whispers' is incredibly vague. Murray doesn't even address the apparent accusations directly. The article simply states that he was replying to accusations that he was faking, but provides no examples and no quotes in context.

So Murray is lying about all of the pills he has been taking and the test results? He must have a camp, a family and a circle of friends full of liars, in that case.

What utter nonsense.

I'd say gross exaggeration and misrepresentation.

20 pills a day=probably mostly vitamins and other supplements he already takes. Can't all be painkillers

tendon tear=Given the scan results seems to have been diagnosed based on examination and his description of symptoms. Maybe he as a very small tendon tear, but such a tear will be almost completely asymptomatic and poses basically zero risk of further injury. Very small tears heal very quickly too.

I don't think the rubbish his camp is putting out can be taken at face value though, and clearly lots of other people agree.
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Re: Mainstream media questioning the 'injury' « Reply #3 on: May 31, 2011, 11:40 PM »
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I'd say gross exaggeration and misrepresentation.

20 pills a day=probably mostly vitamins and other supplements he already takes. Can't all be painkillers

tendon tear=Given the scan results seems to have been diagnosed based on examination and his description of symptoms. Maybe he as a very small tendon tear, but such a tear will be almost completely asymptomatic and poses basically zero risk of further injury. Very small tears heal very quickly too.

I don't think the rubbish his camp is putting out can be taken at face value though, and clearly lots of other people agree.

What rubbish are 'his camp' putting out? I've only heard Andy comment on this matter.

He has been prescribed medication, so clearly there is pain. You're forgetting that it is both a small tear and a sprain. The sprain would cause problems, even if the tear doesn't.

Of course, you won't accept that and will stick with your wild conspiracy theories. Carry on.
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Re: Mainstream media questioning the 'injury' « Reply #4 on: June 01, 2011, 12:10 AM »
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I'd say gross exaggeration and misrepresentation.

20 pills a day=probably mostly vitamins and other supplements he already takes. Can't all be painkillers

tendon tear=Given the scan results seems to have been diagnosed based on examination and his description of symptoms. Maybe he as a very small tendon tear, but such a tear will be almost completely asymptomatic and poses basically zero risk of further injury. Very small tears heal very quickly too.

I don't think the rubbish his camp is putting out can be taken at face value though, and clearly lots of other people agree.
You'd give Keanu Reaves a run for his money at playing the role of Devil's Advocate and Mel Gibson an even bigger run at being a conspiracy theorist, although I doubt you get those references as no doubt you are far too busy plotting your next attack on common sense or concocting your new brand of certified nonsense. I wonder if you are still so vocal about Andy's 'lame' forehand or has that been conveniently forgotten....and I hope you waged this month's pay on Troicki today. Apparently you could get odds as long as 2-1 on Betfair.....although this is unconfirmed as I can't remember who gave me this info..... Whistle
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Re: Mainstream media questioning the 'injury' « Reply #5 on: June 01, 2011, 12:32 AM »
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You'd give Keanu Reaves a run for his money at playing the role of Devil's Advocate and Mel Gibson an even bigger run at being a conspiracy theorist, although I doubt you get those references as no doubt you are far too busy plotting your next attack on common sense or concocting your new brand of certified nonsense. I wonder if you are still so vocal about Andy's 'lame' forehand or has that been conveniently forgotten....and I hope you waged this month's pay on Troicki today. Apparently you could get odds as long as 2-1 on Betfair.....although this is unconfirmed as I can't remember who gave me this info..... Whistle
Hamish i love your avatar and your name .Goodpost by the way.
Fuzzy is a jerk anyway.
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Re: Mainstream media questioning the 'injury' « Reply #6 on: June 01, 2011, 12:44 AM »
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You'd give Keanu Reaves a run for his money at playing the role of Devil's Advocate and Mel Gibson an even bigger run at being a conspiracy theorist, although I doubt you get those references as no doubt you are far too busy plotting your next attack on common sense or concocting your new brand of certified nonsense. I wonder if you are still so vocal about Andy's 'lame' forehand or has that been conveniently forgotten....and I hope you waged this month's pay on Troicki today. Apparently you could get odds as long as 2-1 on Betfair.....although this is unconfirmed as I can't remember who gave me this info..... Whistle

and then lay off at a very low price to lock in profit on betfair
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Re: Mainstream media questioning the 'injury' « Reply #7 on: June 01, 2011, 12:52 AM »
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Hamish i love your avatar and your name .Goodpost by the way.
Fuzzy is a jerk anyway.
Yeah, thanks. It's not me btw, I just typed ginger bread or something into google but it seemed fairly apt. Ah to be fair I'm sure Mr Fuzzyballs means well however visually handicapped he can be at times. His propensity for causing controversy and a further ten pages of discussion though is starting to make me think he's just an alias for one of the moderators trying to spice things up! Think
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Re: Mainstream media questioning the 'injury' « Reply #8 on: June 01, 2011, 01:02 AM »
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and then lay off at a very low price to lock in profit on betfair
Despite your awfully ill-judged 'tip' last night you do however on this subject have a point. If you are going to be so downright reckless (like me) to gamble, on tennis anyway, then befair is definately the way to do it. Especially during the closing stages of a match in live betting as the fluctuations of momentum with every point make for unbelievably good odds if you time your bet right.
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Re: Mainstream media questioning the 'injury' « Reply #9 on: June 01, 2011, 01:21 AM »
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Despite your awfully ill-judged 'tip' last night you do however on this subject have a point. If you are going to be so downright reckless (like me) to gamble, on tennis anyway, then befair is definately the way to do it. Especially during the closing stages of a match in live betting as the fluctuations of momentum with every point make for unbelievably good odds if you time your bet right.

How is the opponent 30-0 up serving for the match a bad tip? Betfair is about finding value, I did. If you trade properly the outcome is irrelevant, all you need to do is find markets where the pricing is wrong.
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Re: Mainstream media questioning the 'injury' « Reply #10 on: June 01, 2011, 01:38 AM »
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Have to admit, my commentators, Fred Stolle and Mark Woodforde, thought Andy a bit of an actor - though that wasn't quite the word they used and I'm sorry I can't remember it - sleep deprivation.
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Re: Mainstream media questioning the 'injury' « Reply #11 on: June 01, 2011, 03:52 PM »
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John Lloyd says the way Murray is moving against Chela suggests there's nothing wrong with his ankle now, and that the small tear could have been there anyway as a lot of players have  niggles like that as part and parcel of playing the sport.







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Re: Mainstream media questioning the 'injury' « Reply #12 on: June 01, 2011, 04:38 PM »
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Yeah, thanks. It's not me btw, I just typed ginger bread or something into google but it seemed fairly apt. Ah to be fair I'm sure Mr Fuzzyballs means well however visually handicapped he can be at times. His propensity for causing controversy and a further ten pages of discussion though is starting to make me think he's just an alias for one of the moderators trying to spice things up! Think
I think we all know that he is trying to "stir the pot" it's just so bloody annoying.
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Re: Mainstream media questioning the 'injury' « Reply #13 on: June 01, 2011, 06:57 PM »
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I think we all know that he is trying to "stir the pot" it's just so bloody annoying.
I'm not saying Murray isn't carrying an injury, but what an incredibly mobile performance today again from a player who only two days ago was walking on crutches.  Physios can do a lot of good things but they can't work miracles - and I know that because I once had intensive physio myself for a relatively small tendon tear in my shoulder which kept me off work for a month.

Also Murray said he needed to have two scans.  Surely a tear of any concern would have been picked up in the first one unless the doctors were totally incompetent.

I wonder too just what pills he's been taking since that amount of painkillers and anti-inflammatories (9 in the morning and the same at night) would knock most people sideways, and Murray has been remarkably sharp, any losses of concentration being pretty much par for the course.

Unfortunately it just means that if he does really pick up a serious injury, like he did with his wrist in 2007, people will still find it hard to believe him.  The expression 'cry wolf' comes to mind.
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Re: Mainstream media questioning the 'injury' « Reply #14 on: June 01, 2011, 08:25 PM »
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I find it difficult to be so so cynical as some of the previous contributers. If Andy did not have an
injury to his ankle why did Wilander say he was surprised that Andy would play.  Obviously he
has seen his foot. He said if it had happened to him he would not have played. I still think it
is giving him some trouble. Andy does not seem to be pushing off his right foot when serving.
Just find it so difficult to understand the comments being made on the forum by some people
who are supposed to be Murray supporters.
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