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Re: Miami SF: Murray vs Nadal
« Reply #45 on: March 30, 2012, 09:29 AM »
Quote from: Joe on March 30, 2012, 09:23 AM
He always says this sort of thing - expect him to play brilliantly tonight.
I do Joe though it does sound like there might be a genuine problem with the knee. But heh didn't he start AO with just such a problem and nearly didn't compete and he v nearly won it. Andy is definitely still the underdog, which can be a good place to be.
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Re: Miami SF: Murray vs Nadal
« Reply #46 on: March 30, 2012, 10:02 AM »
Go Andy -- take no prisoners!
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Re: Miami SF: Murray vs Nadal
« Reply #47 on: March 30, 2012, 10:10 AM »
Quote from: Aileen on March 30, 2012, 04:28 AM
Well he has been complaining about a knee problem that he's had all tournament, although nobody knew about it until he suddenly felt he needed it massaged when 5-4 up against Nishikori, with Nishi about to serve to stay in the set.
Mmmm - I had just said to my husband, 'I bet Rafa calls a medical time out,' and - hey presto - he did!
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Re: Miami SF: Murray vs Nadal
« Reply #48 on: March 30, 2012, 10:35 AM »
This court is extremely slow. Piggie is the big favorite.
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Re: Miami SF: Murray vs Nadal
« Reply #49 on: March 30, 2012, 10:40 AM »
Is it slower than the Australian? Thats often said to be Andy's favourite surface. Its supposedly a slow hard court.
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Re: Miami SF: Murray vs Nadal
« Reply #50 on: March 30, 2012, 10:46 AM »
Quote from: boogers on March 30, 2012, 10:35 AM
This court is extremely slow. Piggie is the big favorite.
Good, pressure off Andy a little then.
Looking back at the clips where Andy's won Rafa on hard courts, Andy's moved in and taken the time away from him, so as others have said, he needs to do that more I guess.
In the end, it will be what it is
Looking forward to watching it, whatever the result. I've been seriously deprived this week
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Re: Miami SF: Murray vs Nadal
« Reply #51 on: March 30, 2012, 11:06 AM »
To me the reason why their H2H is so lopsided, no one's beaten Andy as much as Nadal has, is due to the fact that in order to beat an arch defensive player like Rafa, you must be aggressive and this has been something that is only a recent development in his game. If he plays aggressively, comes in a lot & plays big tennis then I believe Andy will win in straight sets. If not and we get an Andy way behind the baseline trying to slug it out then he will probably lose. But I have every confidence that he will do the former. He knows whats required more than anyone.
Lets hope he is "feeling it" Today.
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Re: Miami SF: Murray vs Nadal
« Reply #52 on: March 30, 2012, 11:16 AM »
You got me
TCBM, who's Andy played the most, and it appears to be Rafa.
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Re: Miami SF: Murray vs Nadal
« Reply #53 on: March 30, 2012, 12:00 PM »
I'm not quite sure what you mean Bevc.
His losing % is clearly the worst in that rather insightful table youve provided against Rafa.
But then Rafa matured as a player a lot earlier than Andy and has played many more matches.
Hopefully he will start to turn the H2H a la djokovic in the coming years.
As they have all (the other 3) played each other much more than Andy has.
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Re: Miami SF: Murray vs Nadal
« Reply #54 on: March 30, 2012, 12:17 PM »
I think an important factor is that Andy really enjoys playing Rafa and I do think Rafa often brings out the best in him. So many of the defeats have been really close. And as Andy improves, under the tutulage of Mr L, hopefully more and more of those close defeats will become victories - and wouldn't it be nice if that were starting with tonight.
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Re: Miami SF: Murray vs Nadal
« Reply #55 on: March 30, 2012, 12:45 PM »
Quote from: Bevc on March 30, 2012, 12:33 AM
Right, Andy has 2 hours to get this match over and done with before I meet friends for coffee and cake.
LIke your style, Bevc. And I'm sure the boys will oblige. All the psychology is in Andy's favour, hope his game keeps up.
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Re: Miami SF: Murray vs Nadal
« Reply #56 on: March 30, 2012, 12:51 PM »
Quote from: Joe on March 30, 2012, 09:23 AM
He always says this sort of thing - expect him to play brilliantly tonight.
Quite honestly am fed up with Rafa's knees. If you're fit you play, if you're not, you withdraw. End of
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Re: Miami SF: Murray vs Nadal
« Reply #57 on: March 30, 2012, 12:55 PM »
Thanks for the 'Murrayfest' Bev! Mr Magic at his best! We want a repeat performance tonight.
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Re: Miami SF: Murray vs Nadal
« Reply #58 on: March 30, 2012, 01:09 PM »
Quote from: Ruthie on March 30, 2012, 12:17 PM
I think an important factor is that Andy really enjoys playing Rafa and I do think Rafa often brings out the best in him. So many of the defeats have been really close. And as Andy improves, under the tutulage of Mr L, hopefully more and more of those close defeats will become victories -
and wouldn't it be nice if that were starting with tonight
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Oh YES IT WOULD INDEED!
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Re: Miami SF: Murray vs Nadal
« Reply #59 on: March 30, 2012, 01:40 PM »
Quote from: blueberryhill on March 30, 2012, 12:51 PM
Quite honestly am fed up with Rafa's knees. If you're fit you play, if you're not, you withdraw. End of
Agreed. The nadal camp is great with their little mind games although there genuinely appears to be a problem. I also expect Rafa to play well tonight but I feel he will lose. Unless ofcourse Andy is off somehow, and yes that is always a possibilty when we are talking about Andy.
But when its Rafa on the other side of the net he usually manages to step right up to the plate. Playing one of the greatest players of all time is clearly enough to interest him and get him focussed.
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