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Murray's entourage, was it the right move?

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Re: Murray's entourage was a dreadful mistake « Reply #60 on: May 28, 2008, 01:09 PM »
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Basically, Petch got fired for telling him to attack more. Gilbert got fired for telling him to attack more. Now he has a bunch of mates around him who daren't tell him anything he doesn't want to hear. The modern game is pure offensive tennis - it's like two bookends forcing each other back. One of them eventually falls off the shelf. Murray's done a lot of falling off the shelf lately.

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Re: Murray's entourage was a dreadful mistake « Reply #61 on: May 28, 2008, 01:24 PM »
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Basically, Petch got fired for telling him to attack more. Gilbert got fired for telling him to attack more. Now he has a bunch of mates around him who daren't tell him anything he doesn't want to hear. The modern game is pure offensive tennis - it's like two bookends forcing each other back. One of them eventually falls off the shelf. Murray's done a lot of falling off the shelf lately.

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Re: Murray's entourage was a dreadful mistake « Reply #62 on: May 28, 2008, 01:34 PM »
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Because it's a sad situation or that you don't like agreeing with me? lol


The former.


:p Although I LOVE disagreeing with you!


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Re: Murray's entourage was a dreadful mistake « Reply #63 on: May 28, 2008, 01:35 PM »
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The former.

Yay yay


Although I LOVE disagreeing with you!

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Re: Murray's entourage was a dreadful mistake « Reply #64 on: May 28, 2008, 09:12 PM »
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He must have heard you today....Grabcopy! Wise words as ever cmon yeah
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Re: Murray's entourage was a dreadful mistake « Reply #65 on: June 05, 2008, 02:43 PM »
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Brad Gilbert's comments on the break-up

I don't know, but I'll be fine, totally fine, I mean from me it will be: "Good luck, how ya doing?"

Tennis is different from a sport like soccer. If a player and the coach don't get along, often it's the player, who is younger, who makes the changes if he wants to take a different direction. It's the nature of the business, I know that.

I would rather look at it like we had a pretty good run. I basically took him from 50 in the world to as high as eight and at the end of last season he was No 11 when we finished.

We were maybe two people who grew apart. I'm sure the injuries of last year didn't help. He had about six different injuries and still he was within winning one match to qualify for the (eight-man) year-end tour championships. Considering he missed so much, I thought that was a pretty good year.

I had a contract and was expecting to keep working but he wanted a different direction. We had a different point of view sometimes about how I thought and how he thought he should play, but that's how tennis is, that's why players move on. I wish him well.


Glad to hear he isn't annoyed at Murray and I do believe him.
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Re: Murray's entourage was a dreadful mistake « Reply #66 on: June 26, 2008, 12:32 AM »
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Very interesting article explaining what each member of Murray's team does: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/main.jhtml?xml=/sport/2008/06/26/stjudy126.xml

Miles Maclagan
Miles is Andy's travelling coach. He played Davis Cup for Great Britain and had match points against Boris Becker at Wimbledon, so he knows the ups and downs of the tennis scene

Andy describes him as "pretty mellow" except when he's losing at the tennis football warm-up game the team play daily. He reads the game well, is in good shape and still plays to a high level.

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Re: News Articles « Reply #67 on: June 28, 2008, 12:18 PM »
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Here's a telegraph article on Team Murray. Just a few nuggets of information.

Looks like the only actual tennis coach is Miles the rest are for conditioning, fitness etc...

Also it looks like he leases coaches from the LTA, which sounds to me like he pays the lot for them.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/main.jhtml?xml=/sport/2008/06/26/stjudy126.xml
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Re: Murray's entourage, was it the right move? « Reply #68 on: June 28, 2008, 12:22 PM »
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Cheers for moving that Mark, how did I miss that thread!  Whistle

By the way, I just realised that the article may be a touch biased as it by written by...

... his Mum!
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Re: Murray's entourage, was it the right move? « Reply #69 on: June 28, 2008, 12:32 PM »
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Yeah that's a good point but it's a very interesting article for those of us who don't know much about his team Smile
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Re: Murray's entourage, was it the right move? « Reply #70 on: June 28, 2008, 12:47 PM »
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It seems the focus of the rest of the team is to make Andy the best athlete that he can be with a tennis coach (Miles) and a specialist when needed , like on clay.

This doesn't sound so bad, as long as his mates are just that and not used to provide tennis advice like yes men. That is the part that we are all concerned about.

Despite that, we won't see the impact of that until a year from now. It look like Murray may be looking at the long term. He's seen Rafa and co, and has realised to really compete he needs to be a complete athlete as well as a tennis player. It may be this he has been concentrating on and as a result his form has dipped as a result, which is frustrating for us fans. If he's a much better tennis player in a year the it will be worth it.

I'm not entirely convinced this is the case, but without any evidence either way as a fan I'll give Andy the benefit of the doubt. I guess time will tell.
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Re: Murray's entourage, was it the right move? « Reply #71 on: June 28, 2008, 06:50 PM »
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I think Murray is showing signs of really coming of age and also of real maturity.

Id say some people on this board, like the OP of this thread, tend to give impatient and unsubstantiated knee-jerk opinions. Luckily Murray himself is not so impetuous.

He has grown up and his attitude and focus have been first class during week one of Wimbledon. Not only that, his physical condition is as good as its ever been and looks comparable with anyone on the tour.

Perhaps team Murray is proving just right for him after all. (And I wouldnt change my opinion if he loses to Gasquet because its a very tough match for anyone - but I admit its another career defining moment for Murray)
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Re: Murray's entourage, was it the right move? « Reply #72 on: June 28, 2008, 07:02 PM »
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Finally he bounced back to form for Wimbledon which I expected, hopefully he can keep it up for the rest of the year.

I'd be delighted if my opinion at the start of the this thread turns out to be completely wrong pray
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Re: Murray's entourage, was it the right move? « Reply #73 on: June 28, 2008, 07:06 PM »
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I like to think we are all 'Team Murray'... Wink
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Re: Murray's entourage, was it the right move? « Reply #74 on: June 28, 2008, 07:08 PM »
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I like to think we are all 'Team Murray'... Wink


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