Mark ..... shutup
I totally disagree with Clydey's reading of the whole proof evidence thing. He talks pish and takes it far far too seriously. (why is he trusted status again? (and no I won't let this go))
I also however, don't care if they are the so called "yes-men" or not. My two cents worth however is that they can't be all that bad if they have got him to where he is today just be doing what he wants to do. I'm sure they are quite tough on him in each individual area that they specialise in. That's just my opinion and based directly on Andy's results. Rightly or wrongly
And I don't agree Andy would have improved quicker under Gilbert, but again, that's by the by - considering how long a new team takes to gel etc, you can allow a few months of no progress before the real progress begins.