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Re: Murray the weak link in the top 6 « Reply #60 on: September 15, 2009, 06:08 PM »
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I like Andy because I prefer brains to brawn. I want a little finesse and silky hand skills not bang bang aggression all the time. I want to be toyed with not hammered relentlessly. Give me those delicate strokes and that deft touch anytime!
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Re: Murray the weak link in the top 6 « Reply #61 on: September 15, 2009, 06:29 PM »
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Apart from having a mindswap against Cilic, he would probably have won the US Open, even if that was the case he would still be labelled on here with above moniker so what the hell! He should enjoy it, especially as he's already made around  £15 million and will make at least twice as much throughout the rest of his career.
[/quote]You are about £10 million off the offical figure for his earnings. ATP posts him as having lifetime earnings total of $8,642,068 or £5,245,326 at today's rate of exchange. A big chunk coming in this year. Another dreamer; could've, would've but ain't!!!
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Re: Murray the weak link in the top 6 « Reply #62 on: September 15, 2009, 06:37 PM »
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Quote from: Buhweet on September 15, 2009, 06:29 PM

Apart from having a mindswap against Cilic, he would probably have won the US Open, even if that was the case he would still be labelled on here with above moniker so what the hell! He should enjoy it, especially as he's already made around  £15 million and will make at least twice as much throughout the rest of his career.
You are about £10 million off the offical figure for his earnings. ATP posts him as having lifetime earnings total of $8,642,068 or £5,245,326 at today's rate of exchange. A big chunk coming in this year. Another dreamer; could've, would've but ain't!!!

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Re: Murray the weak link in the top 6 « Reply #63 on: September 15, 2009, 06:46 PM »
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Quote from: araminta on September 15, 2009, 06:08 PM
I like Andy because I prefer brains to brawn. I want a little finesse and silky hand skills not bang bang aggression all the time. I want to be toyed with not hammered relentlessly. Give me those delicate strokes and that deft touch anytime!
I totally agree. Murray at his best is one of the most exciting things to watch in tennis.
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Re: Murray the weak link in the top 6 « Reply #64 on: September 15, 2009, 06:48 PM »
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Quote from: notnek on September 15, 2009, 06:46 PM
I totally agree. Murray at his best is one of the best things to watch in tennis.
Totally agree too.  But, it's results that count.  Andy is nowhere near winning a slam right now.  It's very depressing.  Frown
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Re: Murray the weak link in the top 6 « Reply #65 on: September 15, 2009, 08:04 PM »
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Quote from: Elly on September 15, 2009, 06:48 PM
Totally agree too.  But, it's results that count.  Andy is nowhere near winning a slam right now.  It's very depressing.  Frown
Not really all that depressing surely.

Just think of 20 years after Andy retires then you'll realise what being depressed, British and a tennis lover really mean.

The LTA won't produce any new players, especially with an attitude likely to win majors when any new Andy Murray fan comes on here, expecting to here people rave about him and most of the time all they would get is rampant negativity.

The LTA need all of the help they can get to introduce new people to the game and if you don't want Andy to win but do want someone else who is British to win Wimbledon instead then it is better to show some positivity rather than kill off any small hope that a British player has of winning majors.

I am pretty sure no other player from any other country gets fans from his or her own country (barring the Williams sisters and that is because of centuries held views on skin colour) the way Andy Murray does from people in his own country, be that Scotland or Britain.
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Re: Murray the weak link in the top 6 « Reply #66 on: September 15, 2009, 08:22 PM »
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^ Sorry, but it is depressing.  I'm not really interested in 20 years on.... I'm interested in Murray right now.  He has so much going for him.   He has had his chances and he's blown them, for whatever reason.  DP is now on the up and up and that's going to give hime so much confidence.  It's not a good sign for Murray... 
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Re: Murray the weak link in the top 6 « Reply #67 on: September 15, 2009, 08:29 PM »
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Andy is intelligent and he will understand the reason for the loss at GS is due to bad strategy.  He needs someone with Brad's brain but who he looks up to and will listen to.  Andy also needs better time management to peak at GS rather than at the MS and ATP tournaments.   I am very hopeful of the future that Andy will force himself to change to achieve his goal of a) winning a GS  and b) becoming the no. 1 in the world.
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Re: Murray the weak link in the top 6 « Reply #68 on: September 15, 2009, 08:33 PM »
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Murray way off winning a slam? Get real. He's ALWAYS going to be one of the favourites to win any slam in the next 5-6 years at least. He only got to last years final for god's sake. Yeah, ok, he had sh*t US Open this time around, but there's no reason why he can't recover from it.

Why do people insist on getting so down about this? He's still only 22 people.
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Re: Murray the weak link in the top 6 « Reply #69 on: September 15, 2009, 08:34 PM »
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Quote from: Philip on September 15, 2009, 08:29 PM
Andy is intelligent and he will understand the reason for the loss at GS is due to bad strategy.  He needs someone with Brad's brain but who he looks up to and will listen to.  Andy also needs better time management to peak at GS rather than at the MS and ATP tournaments.   I am very hopeful of the future that Andy will force himself to change to achieve his goal of a) winning a GS  and b) becoming the no. 1 in the world.

There is nothing wrong with Murray's team and his strategy. His ability to execute all the time is the problem.
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Re: Murray the weak link in the top 6 « Reply #70 on: September 15, 2009, 08:40 PM »
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Quote from: Neil on September 15, 2009, 05:23 PM
Sidenote: Hilarious thread on MTF James.  clap

Half of them think I'm serious. lmao
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Re: Murray the weak link in the top 6 « Reply #71 on: September 15, 2009, 08:41 PM »
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Quote from: Neil on September 15, 2009, 08:34 PM
There is nothing wrong with Murray's team and his strategy. His ability to execute all the time is the problem.

Nothing wrong with his strategy? That's laughable!
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Re: Murray the weak link in the top 6 « Reply #72 on: September 15, 2009, 08:42 PM »
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Quote from: Neil on September 15, 2009, 08:34 PM
There is nothing wrong with Murray's team and his strategy. His ability to execute all the time is the problem.

At the end of the day... Murray will be what he is.  He will do what he has to do for himself.  I disagree, Neil.  If Murray wants to get to the top he needs to re-think a few things.  If he's happy where he is....... that's fine.....
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Re: Murray the weak link in the top 6 « Reply #73 on: September 16, 2009, 03:49 AM »
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The thing about Murray is, compared to someone like Federer say, he's still very much a boy. He's yet to fully mature and perhaps to fully develop as a player.

The reason he's not won a slam though is he lacks the balls to play aggressive tennis in the majors. You have to take those titles not wait for them to be handed to you.
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Re: Murray the weak link in the top 6 « Reply #74 on: September 16, 2009, 07:48 AM »
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Quote from: The Cosmic Entity on September 16, 2009, 03:49 AM
The thing about Murray is, compared to someone like Federer say, he's still very much a boy. He's yet to fully mature and perhaps to fully develop as a player.

The reason he's not won a slam though is he lacks the balls to play aggressive tennis in the majors. You have to take those titles not wait for them to be handed to you.
Quote from: The Cosmic Entity on September 16, 2009, 03:49 AM
The thing about Murray is, compared to someone like Federer say, he's still very much a boy. He's yet to fully mature and perhaps to fully develop as a player.

The reason he's not won a slam though is he lacks the balls to play aggressive tennis in the majors. You have to take those titles not wait for them to be handed to you.
I'm curious as to why you didn't  pick Nadal? For instance........perhaps because Nadal is only a year older than Andy and a look at his record negates the excuse Andy is not maturing on the court? Look at what Roger did at Andy's age. Maturity is not the problem....application is. If he has the talent, he should apply it.......when it is needed the most. Andy has not shown he can do that yet. But......there's always next year right?
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