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Re: News Articles « Reply #6195 on: May 28, 2013, 10:15 AM »
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This link is asking me to subscribe if I want to read more*. But I could get to this article by Simon Briggs from 26th May. Some of the same quotes we've seen already, but there's a bit about the injury - which may be pure speculation - who knows? I wonder whether commentators will stop going on about how Andy only grabs body parts when he's just lost a point, and work out that he might have missed the shot because of the pain.


Murray said the problem had blown up during his clay-court training block with coach Ivan Lendl after the Monte Carlo Masters. It was then further aggravated by his first match in Madrid, where he beat the unorthodox German Florian Mayer in two long sets.

“There were a lot of low balls, high balls, twisting and turning,” Murray said in an interview with ESPN. “I woke up the day after that match [against Mayer] not feeling great. It just got progressively a bit worse. Missing the French was one of the hardest decisions I’ve had to take — although it was the right one and really the only one that I could make.”

After pulling out of the Rome Masters midway through his opening match against Marcel Granollers, Murray did nothing but rest for eight days before returning to the court late last week. He is now undergoing three hours’ worth of treatment and rehab every day. And although he is hitting balls again, his sessions are of the lowest possible intensity.

“I was told to build up my practice slowly,” he said. “I’ve hit some balls the last couple of days but I haven’t been doing any movement on the court. I practised for 15 minutes the first day, 20 minutes the second day.”

Murray had his back scanned last week and consulted several specialists, both in the UK and the USA. The injury is understood to affect a nerve which sends pain shooting down his leg, which is why he can often be seen clutching at his hip, particularly after playing a high ball on his backhand side.

“I am hoping that Wimbledon will be fine,” he said, “and I’ll try to get myself fit and ready to play at Queen’s. But I’ll just have to wait and see what happens. It’s very easy standing in the middle of the court having a controlled practice session for 30 minutes. It’s a completely different thing playing for four hours against the best players in the world. So I’ve got a long way to go.”

* Apparently I've reached the limit of 20 free articles a month - so I'm not sure why I could read the other article!
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Re: News Articles « Reply #6196 on: May 28, 2013, 11:03 AM »
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I wonder whether commentators will stop going on about how Andy only grabs body parts when he's just lost a point, and work out that he might have missed the shot because of the pain.


I've been wondering the same thing for a while now. It's been patently obvious for a long while that Andy does not reach for his back only when he's lost a point. I've seen him do it when he's been winning too, but sometimes I think the comms tend to suffer from selective blindness, either that or some of them just can't bear to watch Andy without feeling the need to carp at him.

We all know all the players have stuff they do. Look at the way Nadal sets up for a serve for example. Does he really need to do that thing where he puts his hair (which isn't even in his way) behind his ears, fiddles with his nose and shorts and so on, before he begins the service action? Of course he doesn't, but he does it, and I suppose it's harmless enough, but I can't be the only one yelling (well, whispering in my case) 'Oh for God's sake man, toss the ruddy ball' at the TV, but the comms say nothing. Andy, on the other hand, might, every now and then, put a hand to his back, or touch his knee (actually, I haven't noticed him do that for a while now I think of it) and it's a whole production from the comms.
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Re: News Articles « Reply #6197 on: May 28, 2013, 01:48 PM »
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weird headline   

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2332057/Andy-Murray-opens-public-image-People-thing-I-aggressive-I-punched-life.html
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  no comment on the pics though 
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Re: News Articles « Reply #6198 on: May 28, 2013, 03:31 PM »
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I know I shouldn't engage with the fools, but honestly, some of the comments on the story are awful. Bloody fools!

Funny though John, I like the pics. Our Andy looks great in a suit.
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Re: News Articles « Reply #6199 on: May 28, 2013, 03:33 PM »
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Funny though John, I like the pics. Our Andy looks great in a suit.

I liked the first pic alone. I feel his face looks too big in the second one. search me
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Re: News Articles « Reply #6200 on: May 28, 2013, 03:38 PM »
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I think this tells us most of what we already know, but even if he does play Wimbledon the question has to be just how far is he going to go?  Unless he does manage to play at Queens, which I have my doubts about, he's going to be very short of match practice.  I'll probably get taken to task for saying that I'd rather see him pull out of Wimbledon and get himself really fit, than see him go out in the early rounds, particularly the always nervy R1, but knowing how much frustration and disappointment Andy would suffer if he didn't play, then if he feels he's up to it I'll respect and support his decision.  How the media will react though to whatever he decides is another matter.


Aileen I don't think we can know why he consulted 2 specialists in US as well as UK. They may be people he sees when he's over there and from the interview it sounded like he was getting a range of advice as to treatment etc.   It sounds to me like he's being very sensible. And like tj said, he has said before that it's a long term problem that he has to manage,  It had looked like he was managing it fine but then the clay triggered it again.  It will be difficult for him to play on clay again with any form of confidence I fear.
Ruthie - If you look at my post @12:49 am today in response to TJ's, you'll see that I've admitted that I phrased my comments rather badly, and I agree Andy's been sensible because I would have done the same if the future success of my career could be at stake.  Also I agree with you that he's probably going to be very wary of clay now, which is a shame because he seemed to have been starting to do quite well on that surface.  This though is the kind of psychological hurdle sportsmen and women have to get over following an injury which isn't a minor one, and some will deal with it better than others, so maybe Andy's greatly improved mental strength might help him.


lmao  Appalling editing and a ridiculously long heading as well.  Sure it would have sufficed to head the article "Andy Murray opens up on his public image"?

Anyway it too tells us a lot of what has been reported already, and I'm not interested in looking at all the comments.  The first one -

You are not agressive, you are just rude and unfriendly. It's rather unpleasant watching you play
- Ferret , London, United Kingdom, 28/5/2013 14:39

said it all, although there is positivity there as well.  I tried to leave a comment the other day but the stupid newspaper refused to recognise my login details, despite the fact that I've posted a couple of times recently.

As for the pics I could look at the third one forever!



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Re: News Articles « Reply #6201 on: May 28, 2013, 03:55 PM »
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 The Daily Mail is so unprofessional and childish   ( but we already knew that)
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Re: News Articles « Reply #6202 on: May 28, 2013, 04:15 PM »
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Aileen I'm not too worried about Wimbledon, assuming Andy plays.

I think you could argue he was short of matches going in to the tournament last year, having gone out of RG in the quarters, and then in the first round of Queen's. I deliberately don't count the exhibition matches. It didn't stop him. He was also not nervous against Davydenko in the opening round of Wimbles last year. It was one of the best first rounds I can ever remember.

The most importang thing is if Andy is fit. If getting fit means him missing Queen's then so be it, although I'm sure Andy would be disappointed. I've just remembered the rally against cancer event too. I can't think why I'd forgotten about that.

I'd be disappointed if Andy had to miss Wimbledon, but for him mostly. If it was a choice of him playing, or not playing and getting right, it strikes me as obvious which is best, but it is Andy's decision.

I hope the media would show some sense if Andy played and had an unexpected loss at Wimbledon. They do seem to have grasped that Andy has a genuine injury now. That said, it's the fools who comment on stories who would have a field day, but they are idiots who would carp no matter what Andy did, so it's not worth bothering about them.

Fingers crossed that Andy recovers well and plays Wimbledon. If he was to win it would be all the more remarkable in the circumstances. I have to say, speaking purely for myself, that alcohol would definitely be consumed if he did it.
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Re: News Articles « Reply #6203 on: May 28, 2013, 04:55 PM »
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Aileen @3.38 - sorry must have missed that.  I've been away for a few days and I find when catching up, it's easy to miss some posts.  I think, like Andy, we just have to be patient and take comfort from the fact he seems to be following the medical advice and taking great care as he starts preparing for the grass court season - I so hope he can take part in it.
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Re: News Articles « Reply #6204 on: May 28, 2013, 05:46 PM »
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Aileen @3.38 - sorry must have missed that.  I've been away for a few days and I find when catching up, it's easy to miss some posts.  I think, like Andy, we just have to be patient and take comfort from the fact he seems to be following the medical advice and taking great care as he starts preparing for the grass court season - I so hope he can take part in it.
No problem Ruthie.  I know what it's like when you're having to do catch-up.



Aileen I'm not too worried about Wimbledon, assuming Andy plays.

I think you could argue he was short of matches going in to the tournament last year, having gone out of RG in the quarters, and then in the first round of Queen's. I deliberately don't count the exhibition matches. It didn't stop him. He was also not nervous against Davydenko in the opening round of Wimbles last year. It was one of the best first rounds I can ever remember.

The most importang thing is if Andy is fit. If getting fit means him missing Queen's then so be it, although I'm sure Andy would be disappointed. I've just remembered the rally against cancer event too. I can't think why I'd forgotten about that.
I know what happened last year, but my concern is just how confident is he going to be about his back, especially if he has to play a four or five setter.  Also there's no guarantee that our weather is going to improve.  Yes there is a roof if it rains, but if the weather is dull and chilly that wouldn't do him much good either.

I was wondering what might happen if Andy can't play the charity match, something that would really upset him because of Ross - but  can you imagine the press reaction if he didn't play in the tournament and then turned up for this?  And even worse if he then went on to withdraw from Wimbledon?  I suppose he could say the match had aggravated the injury, but it isn't a situation I care to contemplate.  I think though that, if it came to the push, James Ward or one of the other lads, could always team up with Timbo.  Wouldn't be the same though. Frown
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Re: News Articles « Reply #6205 on: May 28, 2013, 07:19 PM »
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I don't think it should be a problem if he misses the tournament but plays the charity event - it's clearly less of a strain on his back, it's weeks more recovery time after the event starts and it's to help a very close friend.
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Re: News Articles « Reply #6206 on: May 28, 2013, 07:36 PM »
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I don't think it should be a problem if he misses the tournament but plays the charity event - it's clearly less of a strain on his back, it's weeks more recovery time after the event starts and it's to help a very close friend.

The issue, as Aileen was suggesting though, is how it would look. The press would have a field day if Andy withdrew from Queen's but played the charity match, and then withdrew from Wimbledon. Now sure, Andy is big enough not to care what they think, he knows what is going on with his back better than anyone. However, it would be horribly unfair of the press to have a go at him again. They stirred it up enough last year, and that still, quite clearly, stings him.

I'm not going to worry about Queen's or Wimbledon until Andy indicates whether or not it will be an issue. The only thing I will say is that if the worst comes to the worst and he has to pull out of Wimbledon, I will be bitterly disappointed for him. He deserves another crack at the title. However, if he felt that playing would do him more harm than good, I would support his decision wholeheartedly. The important thing would be his health and wider career.
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Re: News Articles « Reply #6207 on: May 28, 2013, 07:55 PM »
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I'd like to think  Whistle if that was the scenario they'd go down the route of 'Murray tests out back in charity match'. And if it came to it that he had to then pull out of Wimbledon  then clearly the 'test' showed it wasn't ready. I know there will still be press who would twist it to have a go but I feel Andy would take it on the chin for his mate.
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Re: News Articles « Reply #6208 on: May 28, 2013, 08:40 PM »
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I'd like to think  Whistle if that was the scenario they'd go down the route of 'Murray tests out back in charity match'. And if it came to it that he had to then pull out of Wimbledon  then clearly the 'test' showed it wasn't ready. I know there will still be press who would twist it to have a go but I feel Andy would take it on the chin for his mate.

I honestly don't think they would be supportive. I don't think they would see it as testing the injury. It would just be portrayed as him playing a match, regardless of the fact that it would be doubles and essentially fun, not the same as a competitive match. I could see the 'Murray fakes injury' discussion starting again.

Andy probably would ignore it, but it wouldn't be fair on him.
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Re: News Articles « Reply #6209 on: May 28, 2013, 08:42 PM »
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F**K the press all that I say. If I was multimillionaire sportsperson I wouldn't care what the press say. I don't think his fans should care either. The press should be grateful that we have a player like Andy.  Whistle
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