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Re: News Articles « Reply #5295 on: February 27, 2013, 10:34 PM »
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The press release says they still want it to be suitable for use by locals, but I think it was always a fairly up-market hotel in the first place.  They'll probably be making most of the money from special events (weddings) and the restaurant, but to make 15 rooms profitable, it's not going to be bargain prices. 

Not that locals are in need of a hotel for somewhere to stay.  They'll be getting the benefit in terms of jobs (direct and indirect) and getting somewhere nice to go for dinner without having to travel too far.   Don't forget, Dunblane is a fairly affluent area, and I doubt ICMI/the Roux family would get involved if they didn't think there was a market for it.  They'll probably be relying on local business for most of the winter season.

The Chez Roux restaurants are nice, but not eye-wateringly expensive.   They seem to be pitched at a level where you know you are having a nice meal, and most folk would think of a meal there as a special occasion meal.  It'll be more expensive than a typical pub meal, but I'm sure there are other places people can go for that.  If you use the link I gave to the ICMI website, you can look up the other hotels they manage and details of the prices they charge, including sample menus and prices for their restaurants.  I imagine it will all be in the same ball park.

I also wouldn't be surprised if a couple of self-catering lodges didn't crop up somewhere on the estate as there seems to be space.
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Re: News Articles « Reply #5296 on: February 28, 2013, 01:17 AM »
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The press release says they still want it to be suitable for use by locals, but I think it was always a fairly up-market hotel in the first place.  They'll probably be making most of the money from special events (weddings) and the restaurant, but to make 15 rooms profitable, it's not going to be bargain prices.  

Not that locals are in need of a hotel for somewhere to stay.  They'll be getting the benefit in terms of jobs (direct and indirect) and getting somewhere nice to go for dinner without having to travel too far.   Don't forget, Dunblane is a fairly affluent area, and I doubt ICMI/the Roux family would get involved if they didn't think there was a market for it.  They'll probably be relying on local business for most of the winter season.

The Chez Roux restaurants are nice, but not eye-wateringly expensive.   They seem to be pitched at a level where you know you are having a nice meal, and most folk would think of a meal there as a special occasion meal.  It'll be more expensive than a typical pub meal, but I'm sure there are other places people can go for that.  If you use the link I gave to the ICMI website, you can look up the other hotels they manage and details of the prices they charge, including sample menus and prices for their restaurants.  I imagine it will all be in the same ball park.

I also wouldn't be surprised if a couple of self-catering lodges didn't crop up somewhere on the estate as there seems to be space.
I wouldn't know about the Chez Roux restaurants, since pubs and coffee-houses are about my level financially at the best of times, but I do agree that Dunblane probably is generally quite an affluent area, particularly as it is possible for business-people to commute to either Glasgow or Edinburgh from there, and I believe it's also a fairly popular place for older people to retire to.

I used to spend weekends there two or three times a year with my parents when I was a child, staying at Dunblane Hydro, which I see is now the DoubleTree Hilton Dunblane Hydro, so I guess it's gone up a bit in the world since then.

I'm curious to know what they plan to do with the chapel, because I can't see any reason why a hotel would want to keep that feature unless it's protected as being of architectural or historical interest, although given that the house was built in 1874 that seems unlikely.
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Re: News Articles « Reply #5297 on: February 28, 2013, 08:44 AM »
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I'd never been to one either, but I'm good at google! Very Happy 

If the hotel is to return to being a wedding venue, the chapel is going to come in very handy.
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Re: News Articles « Reply #5298 on: February 28, 2013, 10:53 AM »
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Hmm. You can just see all the hatahs sharpening their pencils for their 'impartial' reviews once it's up and running.
Here, Oliver Brown sets out the template in The Telegraph http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/tennis/andymurray/9898664/Andy-Murray-opens-doors-to-Double-Fawlty-Towers-after-buying-1.8-million-hotel.html
I guess he thinks it's amusing....

I'm really looking forward to seeing how it'll be utilised, and hope it'll be a success to Andy and the area. As long as it doesn't distract him from his main mission.
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Re: News Articles « Reply #5299 on: February 28, 2013, 11:51 AM »
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That Telegraph artical is utter rubbish, no news in it the writer just uses the artical to have a go at Andy. Off course Andy wont be running the hotel, he is a tennis player! It's an investment! He has appointed an expert company to run it for him. I'm sure it will be a success. As I'm sure Andy bought it for a long term project.
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Re: News Articles « Reply #5300 on: February 28, 2013, 12:17 PM »
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Crap article, dex.
Any chance for a dig at Andy, and I particularly didn't like the reference to his social skills and to Jamie.
Surprised he didn't throw something in there about Judy too.

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Re: News Articles « Reply #5301 on: February 28, 2013, 01:40 PM »
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I'd never been to one either, but I'm good at google! Very Happy 

If the hotel is to return to being a wedding venue, the chapel is going to come in very handy.

I have been to a couple of Roux restaurants, though not as a paying customer! First time was about 20 years ago when I played a gig at the Waterside, Bray, run by Michel Roux Snr. It was a special menu/event, and it was fascinating watching the waiters getting their instructions before it started - and then watching the choreography as they went with their trays to each table, and removed the silver domes, perfectly synchronised, so every diner at the table was served at exactly the same moment. Baz Luhrmann wasn't exaggerating much in Moulin Rouge!

Then about 4 years ago MR E and I went to Le Gavroche, invited by a friend of our son who was working there, as a thank you for a fair amount of hospitality at our flat over the years. This boy left school at 16, having done 2 years part time at catering college, and went to train/work with Michel Roux Jnr. After a few weeks he was in charge of breadcrumbs. A few months in, he was chopping vegetables. By the time we went he was making ice cream. Every dish was delivered by two or three people with explanations in French and English - there seemed to be some serious staff training going on. Michel Roux Jnr came round the tables to say hello at the end! The food and service was amazing, but this attention to detail must obviously cost.

The Chez Roux restaurants are probably a bit different, but I expect standards of food and service are watched pretty rigorously. From the look of the other hotels, I think the Murrayott (thanks twitter!) experience will be pricey, but memorable.



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Re: News Articles « Reply #5302 on: February 28, 2013, 05:18 PM »
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I am beginning to wonder why all the idiots who write all those articles realize just how great our Andy is.
The people of this country are to blame they are always complaining about him. Yet again on sky sport today they were reading out emails from people with the usual drivel. He has no personality he is dour and so on what a load of sh*t. Will he ever gain true acceptance in UK.

The British are very good at realising greatness when someone either retires or dies. God willing, Andy has many, many years left to live, so that leaves him with retirement, which is probably also a good few years off.

The only other way I can see Andy getting the respect he is due, which is all I really want for him in terms of the public response to him, is for him to win Wimbledon. I can see it now, the press would go mad for him and the public, who generally don't seem to be able to use more than one brain cell at a time, would follow suit.

The thing that interests me about Sky and such is that they have gone on ad nauseam about how 'dull' the game has been without Nadal. Well, Nadal does bring something, that is for sure, but personally I think the game is dull without Andy, or rather, that it lacks a certain something. It's all entirely subjective. However, what does seem pretty clear to me is that those who e-mail in to Sky to say Andy is 'dour' etc, probably don't watch him or the game that much.
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Re: News Articles « Reply #5303 on: February 28, 2013, 05:27 PM »
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The British are very good at realising greatness when someone either retires or dies. God willing, Andy has many, many years left to live, so that leaves him with retirement, which is probably also a good few years off.

The only other way I can see Andy getting the respect he is due, which is all I really want for him in terms of the public response to him, is for him to win Wimbledon. I can see it now, the press would go mad for him and the public, who generally don't seem to be able to use more than one brain cell at a time, would follow suit.

The thing that interests me about Sky and such is that they have gone on ad nauseam about how 'dull' the game has been without Nadal. Well, Nadal does bring something, that is for sure, but personally I think the game is dull without Andy, or rather, that it lacks a certain something. It's all entirely subjective. However, what does seem pretty clear to me is that those who e-mail in to Sky to say Andy is 'dour' etc, probably don't watch him or the game that much.

That's very true. And when it comes to 'during' they can just be the most cynic horrific bunch on this planet. I just came across an article I think or a picture maybe, and the comments that followed after the picture made me very sick to my stomach. All from the very nation he represents. How truly unfortunate. I mean you can dislike a player but then you can really dislike a player.
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Re: News Articles « Reply #5304 on: February 28, 2013, 11:05 PM »
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That's very true. And when it comes to 'during' they can just be the most cynic horrific bunch on this planet. I just came across an article I think or a picture maybe, and the comments that followed after the picture made me very sick to my stomach. All from the very nation he represents. How truly unfortunate. I mean you can dislike a player but then you can really dislike a player.
It's pathetic isn't it? And as far as I can see we're the only nation that do it. I envy the support the Americans get in the US.
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Re: News Articles « Reply #5305 on: February 28, 2013, 11:13 PM »
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Does anyone know when Andy will get his OBE? I see there were a few olympians getting their honours today.
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Re: News Articles « Reply #5306 on: March 01, 2013, 02:12 AM »
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Does anyone know when Andy will get his OBE? I see there were a few olympians getting their honours today.
No idea, Iona. Do they have to be there in person?
Maybe someone else here knows?

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Re: News Articles « Reply #5307 on: March 01, 2013, 02:18 AM »
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/tennis/9901202/International-Tennis-Federation-backs-Andy-Murray-and-Roger-Federers-call-for-tougher-anti-doping-measures.html

International Tennis Federation backs Andy Murray and Roger Federer's call for tougher anti-doping measures


The president of the International Tennis Federation, Francesco Ricci Bitti, has issued a robust defence of the sport’s anti-doping procedures, and promised the leading players that their calls for more blood-testing will be met.

In a defiant interview, Ricci Bitti insisted that the ITF could be proud of its efforts since tennis’s first dope test was carried out in 1986. He also confirmed that, after a meeting of stakeholders in New York this Tuesday, he hopes to implement a “blood passport” system within a couple of months.

“I can compare the Tennis Federation with others because I am on the International Olympic Committee,” Ricci Bitti told Telegraph Sport, “and I say we can only be proud, because we started very early in anti-doping, and we believe we have a quality programme.

“People forget that the money we spend on anti-doping is taken away from grass-roots development, so we have always to balance. But our review of our programme should be completed in the next week and hopefully the outcome will be more blood tests, more out-of-competition tests, and the biological passport.”

Recent scandals may have shaken our faith in the integrity of sport, but Ricci Bitti points to one positive side-effect: that the likes of Roger Federer and Andy Murray have become vocal in their support for a stringent regime.

“The Lance Armstrong report put doping at the top of the agenda and created problems,” he said. “But for us it is good to have public support from our top players, even if they sometimes think the anti-doping programme is intrusive.

"Historically some of them were complaining about it. But now we are happy to hear Roger or Murray or [Novak] Djokovic saying, ‘OK, we have to do more.’”

As the spotlight moves on from pure physical sports like cycling and athletics, many experts have pointed to tennis as the next potential target. Dick Pound, the former head of the World Anti-Doping Agency, claims to be “sure” that doping is a factor in tennis. He also recently suggested that the ITF’s system was designed to fail and “cover their butts”.

“Dick Pound is free to talk but in my opinion he is talking a little bit too much,” Ricci Bitti fired back on Thursday. “We believe we have a good programme. It doesn’t mean that we can catch all the cheating people, because the research on pharmaceutical or doping substances is ongoing, and we have to run behind.

“I am sure there is doping. I am sure there is doping in each sport, obviously more in the sports where the performance is impacted directly, like cycling. We are a skill sport, but we still have to be very vigilant because tennis is becoming more physical and recovery is much easier if you take some substance.

“We have to protect the integrity of tennis, but our attitude on the sports side is that a positive doping case is a sad day. The attitude of the other side, as we see with Dick Pound, is that it is a celebration. It is a different mentality.”

Ricci Bitti is particularly irritated by criticism of the £200,000 underspend that regularly appears on the ITF’s £1.2 million annual anti-doping budget.

As he points out, there has to be a contingency fund in case of expensive legal cases, such as the one against Mariano Puerta – the French Open finalist of 2005, who was banned for eight years for using a banned stimulant – a ban that was subsequently reduced to two years by the Court of Arbitration for Sport – but went bankrupt and failed to pay his fine.

Such financial constraints should ease a little after Tuesday’s meeting between representatives of the ITF, Association of Tennis Professionals, Women’s Tennis Association and the four grand slams. The expectation is that the budget of the anti-doping fund will be doubled, but Ricci Bitti still feels that national governments and agencies should be working harder to support their sporting cousins.

“Wada was meant to be 50/50 between sport and government,” he said, “but 15 years after it was formed, national anti-doping agencies only work in 10 countries, and this is not enough. Tennis should have 2,500 tests run by the ITF on top players and 10,000 run by national bodies on players lower down the pyramid.

“The United Kingdom is strong on anti-doping compared with most other countries. Also Australia, the US, France and Italy. But in South America, there is no agency really working. In the country where we have the Olympic Games, Brazil, we are not ready.”

The ITF was founded 100 years ago on Friday, with a view to standardising tennis rules and equipment across the world. Yet since the professionalisation of tennis, its areas of influence have been narrowed down to some of the more awkward corners of the game.

How do you develop talented prospects from under-resourced countries, like Victoria Azarenka, who spent two years on ITF junior teams? How do you defend against match-fixing, given that recent data from European online betting exchanges put football’s share of the market at 65 per cent, tennis’s at 25 and the rest at 10?

“These things are not well-promoted,” says Ricci Bitti, “because the media is more interested in the big names, but they are all part of our mission.”
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Re: News Articles « Reply #5308 on: March 01, 2013, 02:25 AM »
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Does anyone know when Andy will get his OBE? I see there were a few olympians getting their honours today.
I noticed that too and wondered about Andy.  I don't know what the investiture schedule is, but the only time Andy's in the UK long enough is for Queens and Wimbledon plus the WTF, with possibly a short break after both.


If the hotel is to return to being a wedding venue, the chapel is going to come in very handy.
It did cross my mind but I think it would be far too small for most weddings.

Btw I've just read that totally sh*t and quite uncalled for article in the Telegraph by Oliver Brown and the comments which followed, so are you by any chance Sparkle_22?  If so, well done for putting that moronic individual in his place. Smile

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Re: News Articles « Reply #5309 on: March 01, 2013, 02:38 AM »
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I have been to a couple of Roux restaurants, though not as a paying customer! First time was about 20 years ago when I played a gig at the Waterside, Bray, run by Michel Roux Snr. It was a special menu/event, and it was fascinating watching the waiters getting their instructions before it started - and then watching the choreography as they went with their trays to each table, and removed the silver domes, perfectly synchronised, so every diner at the table was served at exactly the same moment. Baz Luhrmann wasn't exaggerating much in Moulin Rouge!

Then about 4 years ago MR E and I went to Le Gavroche, invited by a friend of our son who was working there, as a thank you for a fair amount of hospitality at our flat over the years. This boy left school at 16, having done 2 years part time at catering college, and went to train/work with Michel Roux Jnr. After a few weeks he was in charge of breadcrumbs. A few months in, he was chopping vegetables. By the time we went he was making ice cream. Every dish was delivered by two or three people with explanations in French and English - there seemed to be some serious staff training going on. Michel Roux Jnr came round the tables to say hello at the end! The food and service was amazing, but this attention to detail must obviously cost.

The Chez Roux restaurants are probably a bit different, but I expect standards of food and service are watched pretty rigorously. From the look of the other hotels, I think the Murrayott (thanks twitter!) experience will be pricey, but memorable.
Very interesting post, Elena. Sounds amazing!

You say you played a gig? Are you a singer/musician?
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