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Re: Ranking next week... « Reply #4395 on: August 23, 2010, 10:46 PM »
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Fish withdrew from New Haven. Baghdatis is playing New Haven and I think if he wins it he has a chance to win the USO series.
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Re: Ranking next week... « Reply #4396 on: August 23, 2010, 10:53 PM »
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Did Fish give a reason?
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Re: Ranking next week... « Reply #4397 on: August 23, 2010, 11:03 PM »
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It says on the draw sheet 'fatigue', which would make sense.
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Re: Ranking next week... « Reply #4398 on: August 24, 2010, 12:14 AM »
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Yes, Baghdatis could overtake Andy by winning in New Haven, as I mentioned earlier in a different thread.

Concerning a case where three players are tied on points, the rules say they first look at who won the most matches to decide the highest ranked, and then use head-to-head to split the other two.
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Re: Ranking next week... « Reply #4399 on: August 24, 2010, 09:05 PM »
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Thanks Yamor.
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Re: Ranking next week... « Reply #4400 on: August 25, 2010, 02:52 PM »
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Poll updated folks. I really feel it is his time and have voted accordingly...
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Re: Ranking next week... « Reply #4401 on: September 02, 2010, 06:54 PM »
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As I am currently bored.com I thought I would do an old-fashioned rankings predictor for post-US Open.

Points of players without their US Open points from 2009....

1) Rafael Nadal  10025
2) Roger Federer 6015
3) Novak Djokovic 5945
4) Andy Murray 4945
5) Robin Soderling 4550
6) Nikolay Davydenko 4105
7) Thomas Berdych 3770
8) Andy Roddick 3135
9) David Ferrer 3020
10) Fernando Verdasco 2970

No other player can mathematically overtake Andy.

Berdych can not overtake Andy as he is out.
Roddick can not overtake Andy as he is out.
Verdasco can not overtake Andy as Andy has now reached the 2nd round.

If Andy goes out in Round of 64
  • Soderling can overtake by reaching the Semi-Final
  • Davydenko can overtake by reaching the Final
  • Ferrer can overtake by winning the tournament

Annoyingly, all these can actually happen, so.....

The lowest Andy can finish is 7th, highest 4th

Round of 32 or Round of 16 then
  • Soderling can overtake by reaching the Semi-Final
  • Davydenko can overtake by reaching the Final

The lowest Andy can finish is 6th, highest 4th

If Andy goes out in the Quarter-finals or Semi-finals
  • Soderling can overtake by reaching the Final
  • Davydenko can overtake by winning the title

The lowest Andy can finish is 5th as Soderling and Davydenko are in the same half of the draw, highest 4th

If Andy reaches the final
  • Soderling can overtake by winning the title
  • Djokovic stays ahead by reaching the Quarter-finals
  • Federer stays ahead by reaching the Round of 16

The lowest Andy can finish is 5th, highest is 2nd

If Andy wins the Title
  • Djokovic stays ahead by reaching the Final
  • Federer stays ahead by reaching the Final

The lowest Andy can finish is 3rd as both these can't happen, highest 2nd
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Re: Ranking next week... « Reply #4402 on: September 02, 2010, 07:03 PM »
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Quote from: Neil on September 02, 2010, 06:54 PM
As I am currently bored.com I thought I would do an old-fashioned rankings predictor for post-US Open.

Points of players without their US Open points from 2009....

1) Rafael Nadal  10715
2) Roger Federer 6015
3) Novak Djokovic 5945
4) Andy Murray 4955
5) Robin Soderling 4550
6) Nikolay Davydenko 4105
7) Thomas Berdych 3770
8) Fernando Verdasco 2970

No other player can mathematically overtake Andy.

Berdych can not overtake Andy as he is out.
Verdasco can not overtake Andy as Andy has now reached the 2nd round.

If Andy goes out in Round of 64, Round of 32 or Round of 16 then
  • Soderling can overtake by reaching the Semi-Final
  • Davydenko can overtake by reaching the Final

The lowest Andy can finish is 6th, highest 4th

If Andy goes out in the Quarter-finals or Semi-finals
  • Soderling can overtake by reaching the Final
  • Davydenko can overtake by winning the title

The lowest Andy can finish is 5th as Soderling and Davydenko are in the same half of the draw, highest 4th

If Andy reaches the final
  • Soderling can overtake by winning the title
  • Djokovic stays ahead by reaching the Quarter-finals
  • Federer stays ahead by reaching the Round of 16

The lowest Andy can finish is 5th, highest is 2nd

If Andy wins the Title
  • Djokovic stays ahead by reaching the Final
  • Federer stays ahead by reaching the Final

The lowest Andy can finish is 3rd as both these can't happen, highest 2nd


Thanks for that I think there's a tiny nit to pick though.


Ferrer by my reckoning can pass Andy.He's on 3065 with 45 to defend so could reach 5020,just edging Andy. Minuscule chance of it obviously.
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Re: Ranking next week... « Reply #4403 on: September 02, 2010, 08:06 PM »
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Quote from: angry1 on September 02, 2010, 07:03 PM
Thanks for that I think there's a tiny nit to pick though.


Ferrer by my reckoning can pass Andy.He's on 3065 with 45 to defend so could reach 5020,just edging Andy. Minuscule chance of it obviously.

Balls, so he is. Didn't even look at him lol
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Re: Ranking next week... « Reply #4404 on: September 02, 2010, 08:07 PM »
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Roddick could have also, before he went out...
There're also errors in Nadal's and Murray's points totals.
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Re: Ranking next week... « Reply #4405 on: September 02, 2010, 08:13 PM »
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Quote from: Yamor on September 02, 2010, 08:07 PM
Roddick could have also, before he went out...
There're also errors in Nadal's and Murray's points totals.

Yeah I noticed Roddick when angry posted about Ferrer.

And the errors were typos Smile Fixed now.
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Re: Ranking next week... « Reply #4406 on: September 02, 2010, 08:16 PM »
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Also, should possibly have waited til after today, as Davy is struggling!
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Re: Ranking next week... « Reply #4407 on: September 02, 2010, 08:19 PM »
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They're both still wrong...
Nadal's on 10025, Murray on 4945.
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Re: Ranking next week... « Reply #4408 on: September 02, 2010, 08:20 PM »
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Quote from: Yamor on September 02, 2010, 08:19 PM
They're both still wrong...
Nadal's on 10025, Murray on 4945.

lol Double typo!
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Re: Ranking next week... « Reply #4409 on: September 02, 2010, 08:26 PM »
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Your calculation's are still correct for the case where Andy reaches the QF, even though Davydenko can get level with him by reaching the final, because Andy wins the tie-breaker.
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