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Re: Murray's Ranking « Reply #5250 on: September 17, 2012, 12:03 PM »
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Sky Sports have committed to showing Tokyo live this year I believe, it is shown in the "Live on Sky" tab on their website.

It is interesting to note Federer said he is "wounded and exhausted" and "needs some rest" now. Which is definitely covering up for a future withdrawal from Shanghai. Andy could close on Federer in the race with good performances in Tokyo and Shanghai. That would mean a race for 2nd place in the final 3 tournaments of 2012 in Basel, Paris and London, with both Murray and Federer due to play all 3. There's still a reasonable shot at finishing number 2 this year.
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Re: Murray's Ranking « Reply #5251 on: September 17, 2012, 10:08 PM »
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Andy needs to win both Tokyo and Shanghai to have any realistic chance of getting to No.2.  He'd then be about 700 points behind Federer going into the last 3 tournaments.  Then, yes, he may have a chance at No.2

Not convinced about Federer needing a break - he didn't go to Asia last year either. Came back for Basel, Paris and WTF and won all 3 because Andy, Joker and Rafa were all either injured or knackered.
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Re: Murray's Ranking « Reply #5252 on: September 17, 2012, 10:44 PM »
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Personally I wouldn't be surprised to see Andy go on a tear and win 25 or something matches in a row. I equally wouldn't be surprised to see him lose 2nd round in Tokyo.
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Re: Murray's Ranking « Reply #5253 on: September 18, 2012, 12:40 AM »
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Andy needs to win both Tokyo and Shanghai to have any realistic chance of getting to No.2.  He'd then be about 700 points behind Federer going into the last 3 tournaments.  Then, yes, he may have a chance at No.2
That assumes Federer wins no matches during that period which probably won't happen.
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Re: Murray's Ranking « Reply #5254 on: September 18, 2012, 01:15 AM »
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That assumes Federer wins no matches during that period which probably won't happen.
The only tournaments during that period are a few 250's, Tokyo/Beijing and Shanghai. And as Federer has said he'll probably take a little bit of time off, it seems inevitable that we'll see a repeat of last year where he sits out all these tournaments and only returns for Basel-Paris-WTF.
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Re: Murray's Ranking « Reply #5255 on: September 18, 2012, 01:16 AM »
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Sky Sports have committed to showing Tokyo live this year I believe, it is shown in the "Live on Sky" tab on their website.

It is interesting to note Federer said he is "wounded and exhausted" and "needs some rest" now. Which is definitely covering up for a future withdrawal from Shanghai. Andy could close on Federer in the race with good performances in Tokyo and Shanghai. That would mean a race for 2nd place in the final 3 tournaments of 2012 in Basel, Paris and London, with both Murray and Federer due to play all 3. There's still a reasonable shot at finishing number 2 this year.
that's good news - something to look forward to as will be at home that week.  Hope Andy doesn't end up injuring himself before 02 as result of Asian swing but he is playing one fewer tournament this year and I'm sure Mr L wil give advice as to how to avoid a repeat this year
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Re: Murray's Ranking « Reply #5256 on: September 18, 2012, 06:14 PM »
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Andy and Novak will be the force next year.
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Re: Murray's Ranking « Reply #5257 on: September 18, 2012, 07:51 PM »
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That assumes Federer wins no matches during that period which probably won't happen.
Er, no - it means Andy will have to get 800 points more than Federer out of the 3000 available.  Not easy maybe, but possible
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Re: Murray's Ranking « Reply #5258 on: September 19, 2012, 02:07 AM »
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Er, no - it means Andy will have to get 800 points more than Federer out of the 3000 available.  Not easy maybe, but possible
You're probably right but could you explain further?

The points for this year only are: Federer: 8905 and Murray 6730 so Fed is 2175 points ahead.

So if Murray gets 800 points more than Fed between now and Shanghai, he'll be 1375 points behind no?  But you said he'd be 700 points behind...

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Re: Murray's Ranking « Reply #5259 on: September 19, 2012, 02:45 AM »
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You're probably right but could you explain further?

The points for this year only are: Federer: 8905 and Murray 6730 so Fed is 2175 points ahead.

So if Murray gets 800 points more than Fed between now and Shanghai, he'll be 1375 points behind no?  But you said he'd be 700 points behind...


He said Andy needs to win Tokyo and Shanghai, which would theoretically leave him 675 points behind, assuming Federer again misses the Asian swing, which seems likely.
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Re: Murray's Ranking « Reply #5260 on: September 19, 2012, 03:28 AM »
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He said Andy needs to win Tokyo and Shanghai, which would theoretically leave him 675 points behind, assuming Federer again misses the Asian swing, which seems likely.
Yes, that assumes that Federer doesn't go to Asia but Mackem refuted that.

Do you include Shanghai in the "Asian swing" because Federer has confirmed that he's attending and I don't think being exhausted will be a good enough excuse to pull out of Shanghai for a second year (a tournament sponsored by Fed's major endorser - Rolex).

So the 675 point difference that you posted probably won't happen.
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Re: Murray's Ranking « Reply #5261 on: September 19, 2012, 09:31 AM »
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I did read somewhere, a few months ago, that Federer would not play the Asian Swing but go to South America instead. I do not know if that is his current plan
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Re: Murray's Ranking « Reply #5262 on: September 19, 2012, 09:35 AM »
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I did read somewhere, a few months ago, that Federer would not play the Asian Swing but go to South America instead. I do not know if that is his current plan

I remember reading that too bb.
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Re: Murray's Ranking « Reply #5263 on: September 19, 2012, 10:02 AM »
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I think the South America trip is an exo in December that Federer's doing.
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Re: Murray's Ranking « Reply #5264 on: September 19, 2012, 10:52 AM »
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I think Federer's losing it big time.  Any sort of trip to South America is bonkers if he's claiming fatigue.  Hope he's not playing Shanghai as that would make Andy's chances of a No. 2 spot even harder.
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