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Re: Murray's Ranking « Reply #6390 on: August 18, 2013, 09:08 PM »
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Sky were not responsible for the scheduling, they even received e-mails from disgruntled fans saying it was a disgrace he was shunted onto the Grandstand and not given a spot on the main court even at 11am because the mighty Tursunov was playing instead, Sky even told them that the scheduling was out of their hands and it was down to the organisers.

The music? how long has that been going on for? Andy has won this tournament twice before, it's surely something he is used too, not just here but at the USO, i was under the impression all the razzamataz was something he enjoyed about the American swing.
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Re: Murray's Ranking « Reply #6391 on: August 18, 2013, 10:06 PM »
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 ATP Race —> 1. Rafa: 9010. 2. Novak: 6770 3. Andy: 5430
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Re: Murray's Ranking « Reply #6392 on: August 18, 2013, 10:53 PM »
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Clementine as much as it pains me to say this; Andy doesn't draw as much money as Fed and Nadal do hence why he is on adverts less than they are... even world number 1 and 6x slam winner djokovic is less comercialised than Fedal...

They are all professional tennis players and should be treated with respect.  The ATP are hugely biased in favour of their two big cash cows.  Murray and Djokovic continue to be treated like unwelcome imposters at the party.

We all know what goes on on a regular basis, and pretty much accept the situation for what it is.  However, the conditions on Grandstand the other night were disgraceful and unacceptable. 

The ATP is supposed to ensure fairness and fair play in a big-money sport and yet is seen to blatantly favour Federer and Nadal when it comes to promoting and scheduling tournaments.

Of course ticket sales are paramount but the integrity of the sport should not be forgotten.  Nor should the importance of Murray and Djokovic be played down.   

       
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Re: Murray's Ranking « Reply #6393 on: August 18, 2013, 11:02 PM »
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I really hope Andy is shown the respect he deserves in New York.  The warm-up sideshows in Montreal and Cincinnati have gone out on a limb to big up 'Rafa and Roger' to a nauseating extent.  The Montreal website banner was a disgrace - even when 'Roger' failed to show they quickly replaced him with Raonic, not Andy.  For an official ATP Masters tournament to exclude the reigning US, Olympic and Wimbledon champion so blatantly beggars belief.

Unbelievably, things got worse in Cincinnati when they shunted the Murray/Berdych quarter-final out on the ridiculous disco wasteland that is Grandstand.  Friday's order of play made depressing reading, with every top player, male and female, all playing on Centre Court while Andy and Tomas were unceremoniously wheeled out like poor relations to perform in front of a pathetic, apathetic, gathering of spectators on the Z-list neighbouring court.  The atmosphere swung from graveyard to nightclub with the rhythm of the 'bigger' matches being played out next door

And it wasn't just the pop music.  We were also bombarded with the thumping announcements of the hysterical PA system - regardless of the timing, and ignorant to the sensitivities and dignity of the players doing their best in truly horrendous conditions.  The reigning US, Olympic and Wimbledon champion, in an always-compelling contest with the world No 6, found himself sandwiched between two doubles and one relatively low-ranked ladies' match.

It was never gonna be easy but, boy, it got a whole tougher in that dire stadium.  I felt embarrassed for both players, they deserved so much more.  I know all about Sky wanting to show Andy's matches at peak times, but this just didn't feel right.  For him to have achieved his pinnacle success only a few weeks ago in the impeccable surroundings of Centre Court at Wimbledon and then come out to that dead and alive hole just seemed sad.  There was a bad vibe and I wasn't surprised or sorry to see Andy lose. 

No wonder he got the first flight out and headed for the Big Apple.  Onwards and upwards Andy. wub 

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Re: Murray's Ranking « Reply #6394 on: August 18, 2013, 11:10 PM »
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Sky were not responsible for the scheduling, they even received e-mails from disgruntled fans saying it was a disgrace he was shunted onto the Grandstand and not given a spot on the main court even at 11am because the mighty Tursunov was playing instead, Sky even told them that the scheduling was out of their hands and it was down to the organisers.

The music? how long has that been going on for? Andy has won this tournament twice before, it's surely something he is used too, not just here but at the USO, i was under the impression all the razzamataz was something he enjoyed about the American swing.

The razzamatazz thing is fine when it's on the court you are playing on though. When it comes from outside and it is excessive, then it's an issue. Even Petch remarked that it was ridiculous how loud it was. It wasn't why Andy lost of course, but it didn't help.
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Re: Murray's Ranking « Reply #6395 on: August 18, 2013, 11:11 PM »
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They are all professional tennis players and should be treated with respect.  The ATP are hugely biased in favour of their two big cash cows.  Murray and Djokovic continue to be treated like unwelcome imposters at the party.

We all know what goes on on a regular basis, and pretty much accept the situation for what it is.  However, the conditions on Grandstand the other night were disgraceful and unacceptable. 

The ATP is supposed to ensure fairness and fair play in a big-money sport and yet is seen to blatantly favour Federer and Nadal when it comes to promoting and scheduling tournaments.

Of course ticket sales are paramount but the integrity of the sport should not be forgotten.  Nor should the importance of Murray and Djokovic be played down.   

       

Amen to all that.
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Re: Murray's Ranking « Reply #6396 on: August 18, 2013, 11:37 PM »
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They are all professional tennis players and should be treated with respect.  The ATP are hugely biased in favour of their two big cash cows.  Murray and Djokovic continue to be treated like unwelcome imposters at the party.

We all know what goes on on a regular basis, and pretty much accept the situation for what it is.  However, the conditions on Grandstand the other night were disgraceful and unacceptable. 

The ATP is supposed to ensure fairness and fair play in a big-money sport and yet is seen to blatantly favour Federer and Nadal when it comes to promoting and scheduling tournaments.

Of course ticket sales are paramount but the integrity of the sport should not be forgotten.  Nor should the importance of Murray and Djokovic be played down.   

Agree with both of your posts on this subject.  So much for the prestige of "ranking.". - total lack  of respect for Andy and also for Ferrer.         On the point of Andy's ranking - other than the "bragging rights" we may feel as fans when our boy is ranked #2, does it really matter whether he is ranked #2 or #3?  It certainly  didn't get him the respect he deserved and from what I can see it did not result in easier draws.   As far as Andy is concerned,  comments he made earlier this summer suggests he takes a pragmatic approach to the ups/downs of  rankings and that in the whole scheme of his long term career objectives, rankings  is not a top priority.
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Re: Murray's Ranking « Reply #6397 on: August 19, 2013, 09:25 AM »
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I like Tomas Berdych's take on the new rankings - a career-high of number 5 for him.

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Re: Murray's Ranking « Reply #6398 on: August 19, 2013, 10:32 AM »
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One positive to come out of Andy losing in the quarters is that there was no risk of him losing to either Rafa or Roger in the semis - which would have been pretty demoralising just before the USO.  Every cloud has a silver lining!
Yes Alis.....that's true, but last year, he beat both Roger and Djokovic 'in the run up to the USO', when he took Olympic Gold! He couldn't have been 'better' prepared! This year.....nothing in comparison in my opinion, so let's just say I'm hoping that Mr. Lendl can weave his magic spell and TJ will have one of her 'feelings'!
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Re: Murray's Ranking « Reply #6399 on: August 19, 2013, 11:30 AM »
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Yes Alis.....that's true, but last year, he beat both Roger and Djokovic 'in the run up to the USO', when he took Olympic Gold! He couldn't have been 'better' prepared! This year.....nothing in comparison in my opinion, so let's just say I'm hoping that Mr. Lendl can weave his magic spell and TJ will have one of her 'feelings'!
well beating Nole in W final isn't bad compared to Olympics Caz!  It is only the 'pinnnacle' of tennis!  Interesting that Barry (hardly Andy's best friend) Cowan said yesterday he wasn't at all surprised that Andy didn't do well in Montreal and Cinci having just achieved his lifetime's ambition (and he wasn't saying that in a critical way). We know Andy is an emotionally driven person.  I'm sure he has tried to move on from Wimbledon and focus on the matches in front of him but that doesn't mean deep down he isn't still affected by it.  I just hope the challenge of defending his title will provide the necessary motivation now. It may be too that he's talking to the sports psychologist he now uses to help him come down from that high.

btw when I checked atp website just now it still had last week's rankings but I thought they were supposed to change at 10am our time - anyone know why?
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Re: Murray's Ranking « Reply #6400 on: August 19, 2013, 11:41 AM »
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Frankly I'm viewing this US Open with great apprehension.Of all the slams this is the most erratically organised one and if you are in Group B you face  having to play the singles semi final on one day and the final the next Anything can go wrong and usually does, the weather,no covered court,the court surfaces,the noise etc etc, If Andy is convinced he can win again and with every inch of me I hope he does,he's going to have need of nerves of steel. I wish him the best of luck
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Re: Murray's Ranking « Reply #6401 on: August 19, 2013, 01:17 PM »
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well beating Nole in W final isn't bad compared to Olympics Caz!  It is only the 'pinnnacle' of tennis!  Interesting that Barry (hardly Andy's best friend) Cowan said yesterday he wasn't at all surprised that Andy didn't do well in Montreal and Cinci having just achieved his lifetime's ambition (and he wasn't saying that in a critical way). We know Andy is an emotionally driven person.  I'm sure he has tried to move on from Wimbledon and focus on the matches in front of him but that doesn't mean deep down he isn't still affected by it.  I just hope the challenge of defending his title will provide the necessary motivation now. It may be too that he's talking to the sports psychologist he now uses to help him come down from that high.

btw when I checked atp website just now it still had last week's rankings but I thought they were supposed to change at 10am our time - anyone know why?
C'mon Ruthie......Wimbledon was ages ago!
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Re: Murray's Ranking « Reply #6402 on: August 19, 2013, 01:19 PM »
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Frankly I'm viewing this US Open with great apprehension.Of all the slams this is the most erratically organised one and if you are in Group B you face  having to play the singles semi final on one day and the final the next Anything can go wrong and usually does, the weather,no covered court,the court surfaces,the noise etc etc, If Andy is convinced he can win again and with every inch of me I hope he does,he's going to have need of nerves of steel. I wish him the best of luck
Me too Bennie......fingers crossed eh!  Smile
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Re: Murray's Ranking « Reply #6403 on: August 19, 2013, 01:42 PM »
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I thought the final was to be on Monday form now on.
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Re: Murray's Ranking « Reply #6404 on: August 19, 2013, 01:46 PM »
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C'mon Ruthie......Wimbledon was ages ago!
not that long ago Caz and I think it's perfectly possible that Andy has found it difficult to come down to the reality of everyday play after such a huge win for him, however hard he tries.  But who knows whether that's been a factor or not. 
Tamila yes the final is being played on Monday - not sure if that's a permanent change. 
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