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Re: AO 2012 SF: Murray vs Djokovic « Reply #45 on: January 25, 2012, 05:43 PM »
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I completely agree "Bailey" Our Andy is peaking at just the right time - i say this having watched Andys matches in this slam. While in The Jokers fourth round and quarter-final matches, The Joker seemed more vulnerable, both Hewitt and Ferrer pressed him, i thought that Ferrer should have taken that second set. While during Andys comparable matches he seemed more at ease than The Joker. I just feel Andy's variety in his game, much more than Hewitt and definately more than Ferrer should ask more than enough probing questions of the Jokers game, questions that The Joker won't be able to answer. Somethings not entirely right with the Joker at the mo? He seemed out of sorts tonight? mentally and phyisically - will he recover in time only time will tell.

It will not be easy for Andy, he just has to believe deep down in himself that he can do this.  Press The Joker like Hewitt and Ferrer did but additionally go one step further, impose himself and his game on The Joker - commit himself fully to every single point.  You can bet the Joker will do just that.This year Andy and The Joker seem more evenly matched in terms of where their games are heading into the semis, whatever happens its gonna be an exciting match! cmon yeah cmon yeah cmon yeah
I completely agree "Bailey" Our Andy is peaking at just the right time - i say this having watched Andys matches in this slam. While in The Jokers fourth round and quarter-final matches, The Joker seemed more vulnerable, both Hewitt and Ferrer pressed him, i thought that Ferrer should have taken that second set. While during Andys comparable matches he seemed more at ease than The Joker. I just feel Andy's variety in his game, much more than Hewitt and definately more than Ferrer should ask more than enough probing questions of the Jokers game, questions that The Joker won't be able to answer. Somethings not entirely right with the Joker at the mo? He seemed out of sorts tonight? mentally and phyisically - will he recover in time only time will tell.

It will not be easy for Andy, he just has to believe deep down in himself that he can do this.  Press The Joker like Hewitt and Ferrer did but additionally go one step further, impose himself and his game on The Joker - commit himself fully to every single point.  You can bet the Joker will do just that.This year Andy and The Joker seem more evenly matched in terms of where their games are heading into the semis, whatever happens its gonna be an exciting match! cmon yeah cmon yeah cmon yeah
I hope you are right, its going to be a nail biter for sure and I think a close one!
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Re: AO 2012 SF: Murray vs Djokovic « Reply #46 on: January 25, 2012, 06:00 PM »
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- Nishi had teeth, but his legs were all gums.
- I've found Andy's 1st serve and Express-Couriered it in time for Friday.
- Respect for the tenacious Daveeeed who scurried around like a wee demented bandana-clad Neanderthal.
- Djoker's ham-string prob is pure 'ham.'
- Loving Lendl's 'I-have-my-eye-on-you' sit-ins on others' matches.

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Re: AO 2012 SF: Murray vs Djokovic « Reply #47 on: January 25, 2012, 06:09 PM »
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This is one instance where Muzza needs to obey his instincts and wheel out his Harry Potter game. He needs to vary the pace, spin, depth and trajectory to play with the Djoker's head and mess up the rhythm that he feeds off.

I totally agree - if he does that he's into the finals, if not its the Djoker
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Re: AO 2012 SF: Murray vs Djokovic « Reply #48 on: January 25, 2012, 06:15 PM »
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..... he's into the finals, if not its the Djoker

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Re: AO 2012 SF: Murray vs Djokovic « Reply #49 on: January 25, 2012, 06:19 PM »
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I can´t see any other result than Murray´s victory. Everything´s in place and it´s the perfect time to him to step it up and show that he´s here to win the slam.

The fact that it is a semifinal is a great advantage for Murray, because there´s no pressure of being a final. Not a single soul is expecting him to win the AO, so he can´t burnout mentally.

And another factor is Lendl. Murray has been playing the most agressive tennis i´ve ever seen, collecting winners after winners. I just hope that he doesn´t go back to the baseline when facing Djokovic, because that forehand is looking very good. He just needs to have that mentality and confidence to be the agressor.
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Re: AO 2012 SF: Murray vs Djokovic « Reply #50 on: January 25, 2012, 06:35 PM »
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He will. Lendl will make sure of it. Nole cannot play tricks on Murray he knows him to well. The injury he was playing is not an injury, he has always been like that, but what boths me more is his breathing after long rallies not 100% fit very surprising. This is where Murray can show him a thing or two. He has had a very easy draw, time will tell.

Andy has to be positive and believe in himself.  He can do it >
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Re: AO 2012 SF: Murray vs Djokovic « Reply #51 on: January 25, 2012, 06:48 PM »
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I just looked at everyone's qtr final match stats and Andy's, unfortunately, looks the worst. Given that he had the easiest opponent of the top four, he should have really had better stats than this. For example, his 1st serve % is sitting at 44% only. 4 aces yet 3 double faults and 27 unforced errors. Nadal has the best stats with 57 winners and a high of 71% first serve. That's pretty good given his opponent Berdych. Novak’s stats are 2nd worst in that list - more unforced errors than winners (39-35).

But we can certainly not draw any conclusions based on the above.  Each round is different and Andy has a very different approach to his matches than those three. He probably wasn’t even half serious in yesterday’s match. At the same time, I am sure everyone else will raise their level as well. So all things considered, this is what I think:

Andy will have to serve at least 55% and I think he will. I think his strategy will be to drag Novak around extending the rallies as much as possible to gas him out. He will most certainly work on those legs of Novak’s and will probably mix it up and won’t completely be either passive or too aggressive.

The main advantage Andy has is that, it’s the semi-final - not the final. I am sure Novak would rather play him in the final so that’s first.

Second, Novak is not very good at defending titles and has enormous pressure going into this match. It’s the pressure of being the favourite and the burden of keeping the same level as last year. Ferrer made him look vulnerable at times.

Third, revenge. Novak showed no mercy to a fragile Murray just last year’s final and Andy should never forget that. Add Rome to that. Novak didn’t give the satisfaction of beating at Cincy either, so it’s all adding up. Add Lendl to that and Andy’s of late on court calm and cool demeanor.  He’s altogether on a different level. I don’t think Nole knows what to expect from this Andy and that alone will make him nervous – throw him off a bit maybe. It’s time Andy catches him red handed and catches him good.

Andy should win in 4 or 5.
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Re: AO 2012 SF: Murray vs Djokovic « Reply #52 on: January 25, 2012, 06:52 PM »
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I just looked at everyone's qtr final match stats and Andy's, unfortunately, looks the worst. Given that he had the easiest opponent of the top four, he should have really had better stats than this. For example, his 1st serve % is sitting at 44% only. 4 aces yet 3 double faults and 27 unforced errors. Nadal has the best stats with 57 winners and a high of 71% first serve. That's pretty good given his opponent Berdych. Novak’s stats are 2nd worst in that list - more unforced errors than winners (39-35).

But we can certainly not draw any conclusions based on the above.  Each round is different and Andy has a very different approach to his matches than those three. He probably wasn’t even half serious in yesterday’s match. At the same time, I am sure everyone else will raise their level as well. So all things considered, this is what I think:

Andy will have to serve at least 55% and I think he will. I think his strategy will be to drag Novak around extending the rallies as much as possible to gas him out. He will most certainly work on those legs of Novak’s and will probably mix it up and won’t completely be either passive or too aggressive.

The main advantage Andy has is that, it’s the semi-final - not the final. I am sure Novak would rather play him in the final so that’s first.

Second, Novak is not very good at defending titles and has enormous pressure going into this match. It’s the pressure of being the favourite and the burden of keeping the same level as last year. Ferrer made him look vulnerable at times.

Third, revenge. Novak showed no mercy to a fragile Murray just last year’s final and Andy should never forget that. Add Rome to that. Novak didn’t give the satisfaction of beating at Cincy either, so it’s all adding up. Add Lendl to that and Andy’s of late on court calm and cool demeanor.  He’s altogether on a different level. I don’t think Nole knows what to expect from this Andy and that alone will make him nervous – throw him off a bit maybe. It’s time Andy catches him red handed and catches him good.

Andy should win in 4 or 5.

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Re: AO 2012 SF: Murray vs Djokovic « Reply #53 on: January 25, 2012, 07:00 PM »
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Who said he had pulled a hamstring? Movement didnt seem too hampered in the last set.
I read moles interview and he said nothing about a hamstring. Where is this news coming from?
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Re: AO 2012 SF: Murray vs Djokovic « Reply #54 on: January 25, 2012, 07:01 PM »
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Haha noles not moles. Stupid iPad
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Re: AO 2012 SF: Murray vs Djokovic « Reply #55 on: January 25, 2012, 07:13 PM »
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- Nishi had teeth, but his legs were all gums.
- I've found Andy's 1st serve and Express-Couriered it in time for Friday.
- Respect for the tenacious Daveeeed who scurried around like a wee demented bandana-clad Neanderthal.
- Djoker's ham-string prob is pure 'ham.'
- Loving Lendl's 'I-have-my-eye-on-you' sit-ins on others' matches.


Couldn't watch today, so thanks for this very concise report!

Friday's match will be on the BBC - does that mean Andrew Castle?
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Re: AO 2012 SF: Murray vs Djokovic « Reply #56 on: January 25, 2012, 07:14 PM »
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Served well all tournament until last night, seemed like he was going for bombs almost every time, hence the low percentage.

Virginia Wade dismissed the low serve percentage saying that it was obvious that Andy was 'trying things out' with his serve. 
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Re: AO 2012 SF: Murray vs Djokovic « Reply #57 on: January 25, 2012, 07:37 PM »
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No vote on this one???

Andy in 4

7-6, 6-4, 4-6, 6-3

I didn't 'start' the thread nor do I think that Bailey did either.  I think that the thread was 'started' by one of the mods splitting the topic , but I think it would mean Bailey adding a poll Very Happy
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Re: AO 2012 SF: Murray vs Djokovic « Reply #58 on: January 25, 2012, 07:38 PM »
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I read moles interview and he said nothing about a hamstring. Where is this news coming from?

I think it's when he pulled up and clutched the back of his leg - 2nd set I believe.
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Re: AO 2012 SF: Murray vs Djokovic « Reply #59 on: January 25, 2012, 07:38 PM »
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Virginia Wade dismissed the low serve percentage saying that it was obvious that Andy was 'trying things out' with his serve. 

My comms were suggesting that Andy was trying things out - getting some match practise. dontknow
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