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Re: Shanghai Final: Andy vs Ferrer (Number 3 or Bust) « Reply #330 on: October 16, 2011, 06:26 PM »
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Boy done good! Not often that players win four titles on the bounce and hopefully this will be a springboard to a WTF crown.

Not sure he should play at Valencia though - it's one of the slowest hard courts out there, and Paris is one of the fastest. Basel would be better.

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Re: Shanghai Final: Andy vs Ferrer (Number 3 or Bust) « Reply #331 on: October 16, 2011, 06:44 PM »
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Boy done good! Not often that players win four titles on the bounce and hopefully this will be a springboard to a WTF crown.

Not sure he should play at Valencia though - it's one of the slowest hard courts out there, and Paris is one of the fastest. Basel would be better.


Makes sense Boogers......I hope Andy reads it!
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Re: Shanghai Final: Andy vs Ferrer (Number 3 or Bust) « Reply #332 on: October 16, 2011, 08:49 PM »
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Thanks for putting me right guys!  goodjob  Totally not thinking about Jamie when Andy winning 4 titles was mentioned.  My apologies Jamie sorry
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Re: Shanghai Final: Andy vs Ferrer (Number 3 or Bust) « Reply #333 on: October 17, 2011, 03:50 AM »
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Rewatched my DVR'd version of today's match, I thought when the match was over that I should have kept count of how many returns Andy had to hit to win this match.  Ferrer kept returning and returning, just like you all say like the Everready Bunny.... never thought of him that way.

 Andy earned every point he won today, and just once did the camera catch him saying the F... word.  But then maybe he was saying focus, but I don't think so.  I would like him to find a different word, as that doesn't portray him as the classy guy that he is.

Does it seem to you all that Andy has changed a lot during this Asian Tour?  He is calmer, more collected and playing very smart.  Definitely not letting his anger get in the way of his shots.  He seems more determined.  Maybe he needs to forget about winning a slam and just give himself attainable goals, and as he reaches these goals like he did today, go on to the next goal.  He is good enough to win a slam, and he will, but for now focus on other successes.

You know some Nadal fans that I know of were saying to me that they were happy for me when Andy beat Nadal, but Nadal just wasn't playing, poor boy he is so tired from playing so much tennis.  Hello, I believe Andy played in all the matches that Nadal played in.....they make me sick.  Also, I read where a tennis writer said that Andy was playing well, however, Djokovic and Federer weren't playing.  I wrote him back that the way Andy was playing he would have beaten both of them had they been playing.

Thanks again to all of you for keeping me up to date on matches that I can't see, so glad I found this place. thumb up

And to Andy, thanks for making my three weeks a time of celebration, have a good rest, enjoy being home, you deserve it!!  Can't wait to get to the office and let them know you are #3 and that you won in Shanghai!!
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Re: Shanghai Final: Andy vs Ferrer (Number 3 or Bust) « Reply #334 on: October 17, 2011, 06:54 AM »
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Apollo: those kind of comments make me so mad! Not just said about Andy though, eg "cup cake" draw and so on. You can only play whose in front of you at the end of the day.
As for Rafa, he seems to have lost his "fight" his most important weapon, at the moment. He has been on tour a heck of a long time. Perhaps this is starting to catch up with him?
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Re: Shanghai Final: Andy vs Ferrer (Number 3 or Bust) « Reply #335 on: October 17, 2011, 09:35 AM »
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Ferrer is a diet Nadal.
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Re: Shanghai Final: Andy vs Ferrer (Number 3 or Bust) « Reply #336 on: October 17, 2011, 12:08 PM »
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I have been noticing that Andy smiles a lot, often when he's lost a point, refocuses and then gets back to winning the next point. It seems to me that he has been having help with his mental attitude. His 1st serve is a real weapon and his forehand is as good as Nole's, his backhand has always been one of the best in the world. Peter Fleming said yeasterday that Andy has an all roundgame now both defence and attack and this could be the stepping stone to winning. As has been said by quite a few this could be the start of the Andy year when he wins a few GS. and rises to #1. I totally agree.
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Re: Shanghai Final: Andy vs Ferrer (Number 3 or Bust) « Reply #337 on: October 17, 2011, 04:09 PM »
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From ESPN:

ANDY MURRAY TOPS FERRER IN SHANGHAI FINAL
SHANGHAI -- Defending champion Andy Murray defeated David Ferrer 7-5, 6-4 to win the Shanghai Masters on Sunday, ensuring he'll vault past Roger Federer to No. 3 in the ATP rankings.

The Scot, currently ranked fourth, has made finishing the season at No. 3 one of his main goals for the end of the year. It will be the first time Federer has fallen out of the top three since June 2003 -- just before he won his first Wimbledon title.

Murray has been unbeatable during the autumn Asian swing of the ATP tour, capturing consecutive titles in Bangkok, Tokyo -- where he beat Rafael Nadal in the final -- and Shanghai.

He has also won 25 of 26 matches since mid-August, the only loss coming to Nadal in the semifinals of the U.S. Open.

After accepting the trophy on court, Murray said a few words to the crowd in Chinese. "Da shi, shi bu ke dang," which roughly translates to "Masters are unstoppable."

Murray's reached a career-high ranking of No. 2 in 2009 but has never finished the year higher than No. 4. Federer reached the final in Shanghai last year but skipped this year's tournament, costing him valuable points.

The 30-year-old Federer, who will finish a season without a Grand Slam title for the first time since 2002, is expected to return for the Swiss Indoors in Basel but still has to defend a number of points after winning the ATP World Tour Finals in London last year.

"I'm still not guaranteed to finish at No. 3. I'm still going to have to win some more matches," Murray said. "But if you finish in front of Federer in a year, then there's not many people the last five, six, seven years that have been able to say that."

Murray believes the gap between him and the top two players -- Novak Djokovic and Nadal -- is closing.

"I don't feel like I'm that far away," the Scot said. "I just have to play better. There's nothing else to say. I can win against Rafa. I can win against Novak. I just have to play better against them in the five setters."

The fifth-ranked Ferrer had rallied in his last three matches after losing the first set -- saving three match points against Juan Carlos Ferrero in the third round -- but he couldn't manage it against Murray, whom he has never beaten on hard courts.

Murray got an early boost by breaking Ferrer's serve in the first game of the match, but the Scot gave the advantage right back by making a string of unforced errors to drop serve in the next game.

Both players then began to find their strokes, engaging in lengthy rallies from behind the baseline with sharply angled forehands and slice backhands -- a style of play more suited to Ferrer, the clay-court specialist.

But serving at 5-5, Ferrer hit two shots into the net and then double-faulted -- missing the second serve by more than a foot -- to give Murray the break. The Scot hit two aces in the next game to close out the set.

Ferrer dropped his serve immediately to start the second set, but again, Murray squandered the break, double-faulting twice to drop serve himself, slamming a ball off the court in anger afterward.

The Spaniard's momentum was halted in the third game, however, when he missed an easy overhead into the net to give Murray another break. He only won five more points on Murray's serve the rest of the way.

"I was really happy with the way I stayed focused," Murray said. "It's hard to explain. It's almost you'd think the more matches you win, the less pressure you feel. I was hitting the ball well, but there's still a little bit of tension because you want to try and keep the run going."

Murray and Ferrer are separated by just one place in the rankings, but the Scot was the heavy favorite coming into the match. He had won all four of his previous matches against the Spaniard on hard courts, including two this year -- in the semifinals of the Japan Open last week and in the semifinals of the Australian Open.

Murray won his eighth Masters-level tournament overall and his second of the year after Cincinnati. Ferrer was attempting to win his first Masters tournament.


Copyright 2011 by The Associated Press

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