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Question: Should Murray look for a new coach?
Yes - 9 (50%)
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Re: Should Murray look for a new coach? « Reply #15 on: October 07, 2009, 10:46 PM »
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This is a real toughie. Nope, I dont think so. The competitiveness should come to the fore, he's always been pretty good at analysing what he needs to do. But the cameradie of Team Murray plays a big part, I think.
Let's see what happens in Aus.

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Re: Should Murray look for a new coach? « Reply #16 on: October 11, 2009, 06:03 PM »
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I think it's fair, now, to look back on the US Open and say that if he was carrying an injury that kept him out of a Masters more than a month later, the result cannot be blamed on his coaching staff. He played with an injury where many wouldn't and got slaughtered. Not a reflection on what he can do fit and healthy. Don't sack the coach quite yet!
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Re: Should Murray look for a new coach? « Reply #17 on: October 11, 2009, 06:26 PM »
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It's funny how there seems to be a valid excuse for almost all of Murray's poor performances at Slam level and I don't say that sarcastically. I must sound like a right delusional fan but it just seems he's been unlucky.
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Re: Should Murray look for a new coach? « Reply #18 on: October 12, 2009, 11:40 AM »
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I don't believe it is all down to luck.  Wrist injuries don't just happens.  Andy must have done something to cause (or increase the probability of) it to happen.  Maybe it is due to part of the training regime.  I am wondering about the overtraining comment made by Mcenroe.  Now that Andy has bulked up, does it make sense for him and his team to adapt the training regime ?

I would say the strongest block now is one of mental.  When Andy successful defensive strategy comes unstuck against an in form and focused opponent, it takes practise and strength of mind to switch to a slightly more agressive style to prevent the opponent from taking too much initiative.  The fear of making a mistake will weigh him down.  I would say that Andy needs more matchplay practise on playing the alternative more attacking style when he is leading or when he is receiving serve so that mentally he will know he can switch when the need arises.

I think the real problem is that the majority of time, Andy is playing ATP & MS matches where his defensive, wait for the error style is successful against not as fit or tired players, so it makes no sense for him to practise the alternative style which is only really useful in GS.
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Re: Should Murray look for a new coach? « Reply #19 on: October 12, 2009, 01:51 PM »
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It's funny how there seems to be a valid excuse for almost all of Murray's poor performances at Slam level and I don't say that sarcastically. I must sound like a right delusional fan but it just seems he's been unlucky.

While valid they're all probably preventable. He's obviously not pacing himself properly for the slams. It takes a very different strategy to be able to win 7 five set matches in 2 weeks. He's not come out of the blocks fast enough, then he's knackered himself too early, he's not fit enough, then he's overtrained. All of which are adding to he mental block because the longer he has no success, the less he believes in himself. He just needs to relax and let it all slip into place. He has the talent, but a lot of people as talented as him have been unable to grab that major. I still believe he will but I'm getting scared for him with each passing slam.
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Re: Should Murray look for a new coach? « Reply #20 on: October 24, 2009, 05:29 PM »
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I think its all a bit of an over-reaction.  Murray lost in the SF of Wimbledon in a very tight match where Roddick held in there better than anyone could imagine.  He wins Montreal, gets to the SF in Cincinatti, and then loses to Cilic because he you could plainly see he could barely return the ball with any power, and Marin just swotted him away like a fly, which was painful to watch to be honest.  He shouldn't really have played DC but he felt obligated to, and you have to respect his committment on that.  All round he has had a good year.  The top of the mens game is very open, and Andy is right at that level. 

I expect to see great things in the last few tournaments of the year and then a nice break from Australia.  Given how open it is and the chance he now has to win a slam, I feel the time to discuss a new coach is this time next year if he still hasn't made that breakthrough.  He won't be short of people keen to take him on.

Let's see him get back in action....perhaps we over analyse things way too much.  I do feel though Andy played with a lot more flair when he first started on the tour.  He does play cautious, but hey so does Del Potro, he is basically a big tall strong grinder who whacks the ball pretty hard....

I think Andy has a lot riding on London....looking forward to it!  For now Team Andy must stay!
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Re: Should Murray look for a new coach? « Reply #21 on: October 24, 2009, 07:48 PM »
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This looks like football fans baying for a new manager.

At the end of the day, Andy is in control of his own tennis, people may give him a psychological fillip, but he is the one who steps onto court at the end of the day.

His shortcomings are his own fault, he has been tactically naive at the GSs, this is not the fault of the team he has assembled. Miles and co have done a fantastic job getting him fit. Andy's body is unrecognisable from the scrawny, lanky physique that he held 3 years ago.
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