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Murray vs Raonic: Predictions
Murray in 2 - 11 (36.7%)
Murray in 3 - 17 (56.7%)
Raonic in 2 - 0 (0%)
Raonic in 3 - 2 (6.7%)
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Tokyo 2012 SF: Murray vs Raonic - Sat 06 Oct

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Well if I hadn't banned myself from betting that would certainly be worth a flutter
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Ok it looks like they just hadn't dropped their odds yet XD

Down to 200 to 1 now.
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So pleased that Kei won.  I recorded the match but Sky switched channels at 3-0 in the last set so I missed all the excitement at the end - soooooo annoying!  I, too, think he plays rather like Andy, which is probably one of the reasons that I like him - that and his engaging personality.

Just watched Andy's post-match interview and thought it was really positive.  He certainly doesn't appear to be too concerned about the loss so neither should we. The thing that I particularly liked was that Andy had his head up and was looking at the camera - something we don't usually see when he has experienced a defeat. Doing well at the WTF is obviously his goal for this year end and he seems to be in confident mood - we should be too!

[ Last edit by Alis October 07, 2012, 10:46 AM ] IP Logged
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I'm utterly delighted about this result.  Andy didn't need it and Kei Nishikori has become an instant homeland hero.  Yay.
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I'm really pleased to see Kei win the biggest title of his career in front of his home crowd.
Plus he seems a nice guy and plays tennis that's fun to watch.
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Very pleased for Nishikori; a proper nice guy and a gentleman to boot.

One interesting observation on the match is that Raonic massed up 14 aces to Kei's 0, yet KN on better performance still won. Shows that aces are not everything.

Moving on to Andy's back. This is a worrying senario. It appears he is having a corteson injections before every important match, which could eventually lead to a permanent deterioration in his bone structure. It would therefore end Andy's tennis superb career sooner than he would wish.
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I'm utterly delighted about this result.  Andy didn't need it and Kei Nishikori has become an instant homeland hero.  Yay.
A voice of complete reason there. KN seems a really nice guy. This is only the second title he has won in four years. Obviously we would all have preferred Mr M to win, but this is the next best outcome. I remain of the opinion that it is better for Mr M to have less points to defend at the end of the season, when they are all more knackered, particularly the higher ranked players who play so many more matches. I also think Mr M will be fine with this result. KN deserved it.
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Hooray for Kei. yay
Hope he stays injury free and gate crashes the top 10 very soon. cmon yeah
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why are some people so obsessed of the number 1 ranking.  I don't get this at all.  Surely  slams>>>>>>>>>>>> ranking
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Slams are much more important than ranking, it would be nice if Andy got to number 1 once in his career though, I wouldn't care how long he stayed there though as long as he just managed to get there once he can put it on his CV Smile
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I agree with laundry. It would be great if Andy can get to #1 ranking for just 1 week to complete his cv so to speak and then he can focus all his energies on gathering GSs and MS. I agree with John that slams are much more important in the all time great history book. Arod got to #1 ranking but people only remember him for his USO slam.
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Hopefully he'll get to number 1 by winning another slam. Smile It's definitely something that's possible if he could improve his performance in the Masters from this year as well.
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Nish just broken Raonic in the 3rd, I said he will likely win this: he's been playing the best in the tournament. Everybody seemed to think it was a cert that Raonic would go on to win.
Wow, exaggeration much?

It was about 50/50, and even those who thought Raonic was favourite (myself included) never said it was a dead certainty. Christ.
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Nishikori is 1000 to 1 to win the Australian Open, at youwin. Just wow that's crazy odds because if he plays like he did this tourny he could win a slam, of course it's not very likely at all that he will be in this sort of form again and keep it up for a whole slam but still at 1000 to 1 it's pretty good betting odds.
Alright let's not get too ahead of ourselves. If Andy had beaten Raonic I doubt Nishikori would even have taken a set. He's had a bit of a poor season from the AO 'til now, and although this win will cover his Shanghai points from last year, he still has another 300 to defend in Basel. He'll probably finish the year in the high teens.

His record against the top guys is poor and he himself is a bit too inconsistent to see off even two of the top 10 guys in succession. The talent is there to go far but he's a million miles away from the top 4 and his fitness is questionable.
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Anyway, I'm delighted Kei won as he's probably my favourite player after Andy. I didn't see the match but surely something must have been wrong with Raonic though in the final set to get bagelled? Some back problem or just fatigue, because if his serve was firing there's no way he'd lose a set 0-6. Taking nothing away from Nishikori, I'm sure he was excellent, but even excellent is very difficult to break Raonic when he's on form.
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