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Re: US Open R2: Murray vs Haase
« Reply #15 on: September 02, 2011, 06:25 AM »
Quote from: iamabritt on September 01, 2011, 10:30 PM
An article in the Guardian says Andy is staying away from the locker rooms so many people have become sick ,he is also taking tablet to boost his immune sysem.
Wow! That's a relief.....I've been worried!
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Re: US Open R2: Murray vs Haase
« Reply #16 on: September 02, 2011, 07:56 AM »
Andy is very focused, and determined and he will I feel beat Robin H. He knows what he has to do and recognises what he did wrong in his last match and will try and not make the same mistakes, also first round match nerves will be over.
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Re: US Open R2: Murray vs Haase
« Reply #17 on: September 02, 2011, 08:47 AM »
Last time Haase beat Andy it was apparently in 1st round when Andy had just won in Marseille and was rather tired and not used to the court. In today's papers they're quoting Haase as saying reason Andy (and Nole and delP) has done so much better than he has is because he left school earlier to concentrate on tennis. Well that could certainly help explain a more speedy ascent up the rankings but really now they're both 24 perhaps he should admit Andy is just a much better player. That said I realise he is dangerous. Don't know much about him but apparently a big hitter, which is where Andy comes unstuck sometimes. But Andy will be ready for him and he was hitting pretty big himself I thought on Wednesday.
I don't think it's a problem being on LA court - just so long as he gets a fair number of matches on AA to prepare for that final!!!!!
Sensible of Andy to steer clear of the locker room. It also said he's taking stuff to boost his immune system - I assume it's been deemed ok by the drug testers. There's good natural stuff you can take for this.
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Re: US Open R2: Murray vs Haase
« Reply #18 on: September 02, 2011, 10:04 AM »
I think Robin, who is very talented excellent serve and volleyer, will get a set, especially if Andy starts slowly. However, fortunately for us Andy fans, Robin has a bit of a glass jaw and also has stamina issues. Just look at his skinny legs
Would be much more worried if it were over 3, but over 5, no chance!
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« Reply #19 on: September 02, 2011, 10:10 AM »
Thanks Bevc. Let the Scarlet Pimpernel prevail!
Good Luck Andy......positive vibes are on there way!
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Re: US Open R2: Murray vs Haase
« Reply #20 on: September 02, 2011, 10:45 AM »
Quote from: Ruthie on September 02, 2011, 08:47 AM
In today's papers they're quoting Haase as saying reason Andy (and Nole and delP) has done so much better than he has is because he left school earlier to concentrate on tennis. Well that could certainly help explain a more speedy ascent up the rankings but really now they're both 24 perhaps he should admit Andy is just a much better player.
He's also spent about 16 months out with a knee injury in the past few years so that stopped his progress as well.
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Re: US Open R2: Murray vs Haase
« Reply #21 on: September 02, 2011, 11:19 AM »
Quote from: Allan on September 02, 2011, 10:45 AM
He's also spent about 16 months out with a knee injury in the past few years so that stopped his progress as well.
Well that is fair enough but do you think he'd be as talented a player as Andy without that (and allowing for the fact that Andy had a few months out with wrist injury a few years ago)? I ask that as a genuine question as haven't see Haase play very much.
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Re: US Open R2: Murray vs Haase
« Reply #22 on: September 02, 2011, 11:54 AM »
Ruthie, he's not got Andy's variety of shot but he's a powerful hitter.
Bit of a cheek actually, Andy turned pro a year after Nole and u don't hear him justifying himself in this way.
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Re: US Open R2: Murray vs Haase
« Reply #23 on: September 02, 2011, 12:39 PM »
Quote from: Ruthie on September 02, 2011, 08:47 AM
Don't know much about him but apparently a big hitter, which is where Andy comes unstuck sometimes.
A shame that meme will never go away.
Haase will pose some trouble at times but nothing that will amount to anything.
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Re: US Open R2: Murray vs Haase
« Reply #24 on: September 02, 2011, 01:15 PM »
Actually Andy does very well against "big hitters." Check out his h2h against Sod/ Delboy/Isner anyone u like, I think. It's Andy's inconsistency that's the problem, and tendency to wrist injury too.
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« Reply #25 on: September 02, 2011, 01:33 PM »
Quote from: blueberryhill on September 02, 2011, 01:15 PM
Actually Andy does very well against "big hitters." Check out his h2h against Sod/ Delboy/Isner anyone u like, I think. It's Andy's inconsistency that's the problem, and tendency to wrist injury too.
It's just I can remember him being blown off court on occasion by the likes of Gonzalez and other big hitters. But as I said in the post from which the sentence was taken I think Andy is hitting bigger himself these days. It brought it home to me watching some of the Ferrero-Monfils match yesterday and how much harder Andy had been hitting than they were.
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Re: US Open R2: Murray vs Haase
« Reply #26 on: September 02, 2011, 01:36 PM »
Quote from: Ruthie on September 02, 2011, 11:19 AM
Well that is fair enough but do you think he'd be as talented a player as Andy without that (and allowing for the fact that Andy had a few months out with wrist injury a few years ago)? I ask that as a genuine question as haven't see Haase play very much.
I think he's definitely good enough for the top 20 just now and I suspect he'll get into the top 10 at some point with in the next years. Whether he can go any further than that, who knows. Andy will have too much experience and variety for Haase today.
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Re: US Open R2: Murray vs Haase
« Reply #27 on: September 02, 2011, 01:45 PM »
I bought Sky Go to watch the US Open and now I find out that all the channels are being taken over by football internationals tonight.
So for the first time in a very long time, I won't be able to see a Murray GS match
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Re: US Open R2: Murray vs Haase
« Reply #28 on: September 02, 2011, 01:46 PM »
Quote from: Ruthie on September 02, 2011, 01:33 PM
It's just I can remember him being blown off court on occasion by the likes of Gonzalez and other big hitters. But as I said in the post from which the sentence was taken I think Andy is hitting bigger himself these days. It brought it home to me watching some of the Ferrero-Monfils match yesterday and how much harder Andy had been hitting than they were.
You are correct, Ruthie, but Gonzalez' victory against Andy was on red clay at 2009 RG. At that time Andy had yet to master Paris or other clay courts. I think that defeat can be discounted.
The last occasions that Andy were blown off court were against Djokovic in AO 2011 and against Anderson in Montreal. I don't believe that the new healthy Andy will let these situations recur.
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Re: US Open R2: Murray vs Haase
« Reply #29 on: September 02, 2011, 01:46 PM »
Quote from: Ruthie on September 02, 2011, 01:33 PM
It's just I can remember him being blown off court on occasion by the likes of Gonzalez and other big hitters. But as I said in the post from which the sentence was taken I think Andy is hitting bigger himself these days. It brought it home to me watching some of the Ferrero-Monfils match yesterday and how much harder Andy had been hitting than they were.
That match vs Gonzalez was just embarrassing. It was the height of Murray's passive phase. He'd float it back mid-court and Gonzo would run around his backhand and blast it down Andy's throat.
If you think about it now - he almost never plays as passively as that. Everyone's been imploring him to be more aggressive and, if you think about his matches over the last couple of years, he generally is.
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