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Question: Was Murray's manner of withdrawal honest?
Yes, he truly didn't know until the last minute. - 11 (61.1%)
No, he probably knew but wanted to keep the hype up for various reasons. - 4 (22.2%)
I'm not sure on this one. - 3 (16.7%)
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Re: Was Murray's pull out suspicious? « Reply #15 on: June 24, 2007, 07:23 PM »
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I suspect this wrist injury is going to be an issue for quite a few months. I would not be particularly surprised if Murray also missed the USO
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Re: Was Murray's pull out suspicious? « Reply #16 on: June 24, 2007, 07:23 PM »
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I don't think that Wimbeldon needs to  do anything to maintain a high profile as for Ascot and Galastonbury.They also take place every year before Wimbeldon.All the Tennis Slams have a high profile.As for needing a British player with a chance to do well It's been 30 years since a British woman won the ladies singles and a lot longer since any British player won the mens.Also no-one with any wit expects miracles from the LTA in a year.It will take longer.such cynacism
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Re: Was Murray's pull out suspicious? « Reply #17 on: June 24, 2007, 07:28 PM »
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Fuzzy go "Boil yer heid"as the locals here would say.I think Andy will be back to play the US  hard court season where he picked up a lot of points last year.Or is Fuzzy a psuedoname for Novak "what you call him"who has few decent words to say about Andy Murray.and when he got knocked out of Queens last week claimed injury to his shoulder which he said affected his serve.
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Re: Was Murray's pull out suspicious? « Reply #18 on: June 24, 2007, 07:29 PM »
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Quote from: hulahoop on June 24, 2007, 06:25 PM
:p Mr. Green LOL Looking at early results on the poll, we're a cynical load of bu**ers aren't we?
Completely agree with you Hulahoop.
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Re: Was Murray's pull out suspicious? « Reply #19 on: June 24, 2007, 07:47 PM »
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If the doctors said 10 days then USO should be no problem but then again the doctors he is getting advice from seem to be rather incompetent if they make one bold statement and then U-turn on it the next day.
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Re: Was Murray's pull out suspicious? « Reply #20 on: June 24, 2007, 10:26 PM »
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Just spoke to Cate and she agrees with fuzzy about the Murray situation being all politics.

I'm on the fence here but I really think it's a legitmate question to ask considering the way things have been handled in the last couple of weeks. He could be doing it for the LTA so they can keep the hype but not have to deal with Murray losing in the first round. Murray also will be pleasing his sponsors by keeping on the front pages until the last absolute moment.

I really should get fuzz to write a short objective article for MW on this Wink
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Re: Was Murray's pull out suspicious? « Reply #21 on: June 25, 2007, 12:14 AM »
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Quote from: fuzzyballs on June 24, 2007, 06:27 PM
.. an army of Barry Cowan's..


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Re: Was Murray's pull out suspicious? « Reply #22 on: June 25, 2007, 12:47 PM »
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Its not politics at all. What does the LTA and Wimbledon have to gain by any of this?  People had already bought their tickets, and the place will be packed regardless. Well, depending on the rain. So I think Andy really wanted to play, and in the end, he couldnt. He waited til the last possible moment, but it wasnt long enough. Too bad. On to the US Hard Court Season then. 

Mark, why are you so suddenly impressed by Fuzzy? You need to go back and read that thread with his comments about dropping out of the top 100!
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Re: Was Murray's pull out suspicious? « Reply #23 on: June 25, 2007, 03:49 PM »
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Maybe, just maybe, Andy actually wanted to play, and maybe he was holding off the decision not because he's involved in some intricate publicity web with the LTA but because he actually wanted to play. He gave an interview on Saturday saying that if he wasn't fit, he wouldn't play, and then on Sunday he withdrew. It's hardly earth shattering. Jesus.

(And I'm not saying that the LTA had nothing to do with the decision on when he was pulling out, but even if they did, does it really matter? It's a business as much as it is a sport. Blah blah blah blah blah.)
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Re: Was Murray's pull out suspicious? « Reply #24 on: June 26, 2007, 02:38 AM »
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I suspect Murray really wanted to play, and had to be talked out of going for it despite not being ready. Athough perhaps this decision was as much an internal battle for Murray than one with his coachs/doctors.

Maybe he knew all along the right decision was not to risk it but he couldnt face up to that until the last minute, realising as Wimbledon was upon him that he just couldnt play.

I also happen to have heard from someone who heard directly from Judy Murray 'weeks ago' that it was almost certain he wasnt going to make it and that basically his support team were trying to help him face up to that - but i dont expect people to neccesarily believe the authenticity of that Whistle

He had every right to delay till the last minute. As I say, it mustve been a classic internal battle between the head and the heart and he wanted to give himself every chance of making it. This talk of LTA conspiracy theories is absolutely ridiculous to my mind. Whether they were happy/indifferent about how the story panned out (in the media) is also debateable.
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Re: Was Murray's pull out suspicious? « Reply #25 on: June 26, 2007, 07:22 AM »
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Quote from: Jameselaprendi on June 26, 2007, 02:38 AM
I also happen to have heard from someone who heard directly from Judy Murray 'weeks ago' that it was almost certain he wasnt going to make it and that basically his support team were trying to help him face up to that - but i dont expect people to neccesarily believe the authenticity of that Whistle
I believe that and others have said similar.
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Re: Was Murray's pull out suspicious? « Reply #26 on: June 26, 2007, 01:04 PM »
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If there was anything political about it, it was about making sure his place would go to a LL instead of the draw being rejigged, which would have given a tiny advantage to at least one of his opponents. But even I'm not cynical enough, because the advantage is so tiny as to not warrant the constant 'will you play' from everyone for a minute longer than absolutely necessary.
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Re: Was Murray's pull out suspicious? « Reply #27 on: June 26, 2007, 02:02 PM »
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Quote from: fuzzyballs on June 24, 2007, 06:05 PM
It wasn't rubbish. It was very carefully crafted misinformation designed to maintain the marketability of the tournament to the British public for as long as possible.

Of course it was misinformation if not downright lies. You only have to look at all the contradictions in the quotes from Murray from Saturday to Sunday. I give you just one example here:
Saturday: Murray: "I've been starting to hit topspin forehand four or five days ago properly.
Sunday (when he withdrew): Murray: "I have played practice sets the last few days but still cannot hit a topsin forehand properly."
Of course he was hyping it to the very end. He probably knew a week ago he wasn't playing. To deliberately mislead your fans like that - I find it so disappointing.
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Re: Was Murray's pull out suspicious? « Reply #28 on: June 26, 2007, 03:49 PM »
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Brad almost admitted he knew Murray wouldn't be fit for Wimbledon in the BBC interview but excused himself by saying his job is to be optimistic.
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Re: Was Murray's pull out suspicious? « Reply #29 on: June 26, 2007, 04:52 PM »
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In the grand scheme of things.............SO WHAT?
Oh, how we'll look back and laugh out loud and say, Just as well he pulled out, it was the making of him, and saved his career  cmon yeah
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