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When will Nadal retire? « on: October 28, 2011, 10:25 PM »
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A question! When will Nadal call it a day?.

Surely his level can't reach 09-10 again and with Djoko and Andy to face his ambitions of Grand Slam Glory are ever harder.
Through 07-10 his only real challenge was Fed who he owned by breaking down the backhand but now Novak is doing to him Rafa did to Roger.

Most importantly though is his body which surely can only last an other year or so if he continues to play the way he is, confirmed by the way he had nothing left in the 4th of the Open Final.

My own thoughts are that he should beef up the serve as he did to win the US Open in 10, end points quicker and try to take the pressure of his body.

Any thoughts ?
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Re: When will Nadal retire? « Reply #1 on: October 28, 2011, 10:39 PM »
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This isn't foo far-fetched. I think he knows his body is beaten up, and he has a sort of resigned look on his face all the time. He doesn't even appear too fussed when he loses. Let's face it - he's done it all, won every slam. What has he got left to prove? I forecast a retirement and a life of fishing in the Mallorcan sunshine within 18 months.
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Re: When will Nadal retire? « Reply #2 on: October 28, 2011, 11:29 PM »
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This isn't foo far-fetched. I think he knows his body is beaten up, and he has a sort of resigned look on his face all the time. He doesn't even appear too fussed when he loses. Let's face it - he's done it all, won every slam. What has he got left to prove? I forecast a retirement and a life of fishing in the Mallorcan sunshine within 18 months.
I think you could be right.
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Re: When will Nadal retire? « Reply #3 on: October 29, 2011, 03:05 AM »
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This isn't foo far-fetched. I think he knows his body is beaten up, and he has a sort of resigned look on his face all the time. He doesn't even appear too fussed when he loses. Let's face it - he's done it all, won every slam. What has he got left to prove? I forecast a retirement and a life of fishing in the Mallorcan sunshine within 18 months.
I was going to say he could pursue his golfing activities, but that can be hard on the knees too if played too often, and it's his knees that surely must be his main problem.

I know I've already said this on another thread, but about a year ago I read an article on his website in which the consultant who treated his knee problems said that the tendons had actually disintegrated, that he had patched them up, but had warned Nadal that if he didn't change his style of play and also played fewer tournaments they would only disintegrate again, and that if this happened little if anything could be done about it second time round.  It certainly doesn't seem that Nadal has heeded this advice.  He has a very strong competitive streak and I'm prepared to believe that he'll go on until it's proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that he simply can't.

Very interesting that Nadal is elected to spend more time practising in order to get his game up to its old level before Paris instead of playing an extra tournament.  This smacks a little of desperation to me.
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Re: When will Nadal retire? « Reply #4 on: October 29, 2011, 05:11 AM »
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I have admired Nadal's determination a lot in the past. I have also thought though that he is going to burn himself out while still young. It is sad if he does.  I think perhaps Uncle Tony has pushed him too hard.
Still, if he does retire young, he has had a fantastic career already.  Andy should not feel bad about taking the lead now, his time has come and his career will go on for many years.
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Re: When will Nadal retire? « Reply #5 on: October 29, 2011, 06:56 AM »
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I agree with Grabcopy. Rafa has nothing left to prove. His record this year would be superb...for anyone not called Rafa!
For me, what he seems to have lost this year is his best weapon- his indominable spirit. We saw a flash of it in the third set at the USOpen, then it was gone. He used to die fighting every point.
It will be very interesting to see what happens next year.
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Re: When will Nadal retire? « Reply #6 on: October 29, 2011, 10:15 AM »
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I agree - I think Novak's dominance this year has completely sapped Rafa's confidence.  Added to that is Andy's bagel in Tokyo - which I think was hugely significant to both of them.  Rafa will not stay around to pick up crumbs from the table - if he can't be at the top I don't think he will be motivated to play.  In some ways the dominance of Rafa and Roger for such a long time will work against Rafa - he knows how to beat Roger and has become comfrotable with the rivalry.  He is definitely no longer comfortable with Nole - whom he says he has always feared overtaking him - and he knows that Andy is a great threat and that there is young blood coming up behind.  IMO if Rafa doesn't win a major in 2012 he will retire.  A great pity for his fans and tennis in general but probably good for his general well-being.  He has nothing to prove and will always be remembered as one of the tennis greats no matter where he goes from here.
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Re: When will Nadal retire? « Reply #7 on: October 29, 2011, 12:06 PM »
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Alis, there's a kind of ebb and flow in tennis, I feel. Rafa's name will forever be linked to Roger's and I feel they might ebb together. All Rafa's energy was directed at challenging Fed.
Can't imagine how he could summon it up and  do it all over again against Nole and Andy.
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Re: When will Nadal retire? « Reply #8 on: October 29, 2011, 12:49 PM »
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My husband has often said that he did not think Rafa would last a lot longer if he continues to play the type of game he does.  The physicallity of his game is such that he will burn out. You can already see he is slowing down a bit. He will need to try and play a different kind of game if he wants to continue for much longer. The stress on the joints in tennis must be tremendous. All the effort to run for the ball must cause a lot of wear and tare. Unlike Federer who seems to float about the court and does not pick up many injuries, Nadal has to do an awful lot of running,  it is to be hoped that he does not get such a bad injury. If he does and cannot continue to play he should retire and look back on a brilliant career.
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Re: When will Nadal retire? « Reply #9 on: October 31, 2011, 09:59 AM »
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Although I'm not a big fan of Rafa's these days, I do think it would be very sad if he continued to drive himself so hard that his tendons disintigrated again, leaving him to live in pain for the rest of his life! I hope he retires with his head held high, while he's still fit enough to enjoy the rewards of his career!
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Re: When will Nadal retire? « Reply #10 on: October 31, 2011, 10:51 AM »
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Although I'm not a big fan of Rafa's these days, I do think it would be very sad if he continued to drive himself so hard that his tendons disintigrated again, leaving him to live in pain for the rest of his life! I hope he retires with his head held high, while he's still fit enough to enjoy the rewards of his career!

Couldn't agree more Caz.
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Re: When will Nadal retire? « Reply #11 on: October 31, 2011, 11:29 AM »
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I thought this at the end of 2009. I thought he was done, and that his body was breaking down.

Then he proceeded to win the French Open, Wimbledon and the US Open in 2010.

Lesson learned, don't write off Rafael Nadal.
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Re: When will Nadal retire? « Reply #12 on: October 31, 2011, 11:35 AM »
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I thought this at the end of 2009. I thought he was done, and that his body was breaking down.

Then he proceeded to win the French Open, Wimbledon and the US Open in 2010.

Lesson learned, don't write off Rafael Nadal.

My thoughts exactly. He was a shadow of his former self at the WTF in 2009 - then 2010 happened.
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Re: When will Nadal retire? « Reply #13 on: October 31, 2011, 12:19 PM »
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I wouldn't dream of writing him [or anyone] off! I posted my comment after reading what his specialist said about the condition of his knees! I just think it would be sad if he insisted on carrying on until it was too late, for the sake of a few more trophies and a few more cheques which he doesn't need!
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Re: When will Nadal retire? « Reply #14 on: November 01, 2011, 02:28 PM »
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I want to see Andy winning a slam with Rafa, Novak and Roger at their peak, not at the expense of one or two of them retiring.

As above, it would be silly to write off Rafa - he's only 25!
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