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Re: Will Andy win a clay tournament in 2013? « Reply #45 on: February 03, 2013, 07:07 PM »
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I still don't understand how Andy isn't one of the top clay court players.

Clay is meant to slow the game down. It slows down serves, it slows down any shots when they bounce, and it slows you down when you are scampering around the court like a headless chicken.
In a way its an equalizer ie. players who are generally slow around the court with weak serves and ground shots aren't at as big a disadvanatge as on say a hard court. Roddick was hopeless on clay I suppose because his main weapon, his serve, didn't have as much effect. So shouldn't the game on clay be more about skill and your tennis brain? But Andy is supposedly the most skilfull of the big 4 tennis wise but he's the worst on clay whereas Nadal just wallops every shot as hard as he can and he's the best! Go figure.
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Re: Will Andy win a clay tournament in 2013? « Reply #46 on: February 03, 2013, 11:06 PM »
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It's all down to the movement though.

Murray -> struggles with movement somewhat -> not comfortable -> struggles to find rhythm, not completely confident
Nadal -> moves with ease -> completely comfortable -> finds rhythm, supremely confident

The opposite could be said of grass, if you switch Nadal with Djokovic and reverse the roles.
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Re: Will Andy win a clay tournament in 2013? « Reply #47 on: February 05, 2013, 09:13 PM »
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I'd be suprised if he has as poor clay season in 2013 as he did in 2012. I think he was still reeling from his AO loss to Novak.

I don't know if Andy genuinely believes he can win RG with Rafa around - who can blame him? even the great one had to wait for someone to dump Rafa out before he could lift the trophy!!, and with the grass season so soon after RG you have to wonder if even subconciously Andy is holding something back.

i'd like to see him play Houston or Casablanca just to see how he'd fare in a smaller clay event, against your run of the mill CC specialists, if he could win a title on clay it'd give him could confidence going into the masters and RG.
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Re: Will Andy win a clay tournament in 2013? « Reply #48 on: February 05, 2013, 09:14 PM »
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I still don't understand how Andy isn't one of the top clay court players.

He can't slide. End of story.
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Re: Will Andy win a clay tournament in 2013? « Reply #49 on: February 05, 2013, 09:33 PM »
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^ I have to agree.  Andy just looks awkward on clay.  He may be fit, but his body and persona are not given over to sliding.   Surprising, given it was what he trained on in Spain (I think?) Sometimes I feel if he could just loosen up a wee bit... but then, he wouldn't be Andy.  Ho hum...
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Re: Will Andy win a clay tournament in 2013? « Reply #50 on: February 05, 2013, 09:46 PM »
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^ I have to agree.  Andy just looks awkward on clay.  He may be fit, but his body and persona are not given over to sliding.   Surprising, given it was what he trained on in Spain (I think?) Sometimes I feel if he could just loosen up a wee bit... but then, he wouldn't be Andy.  Ho hum...

If sliding on clay could wreck his knee/ankles - and thus possibly the rest of his career I think I'd rather he maximised the skill he has on clay and does the best he can to fulfil his ambitions - without sliding - to enable him to enjoy year round success for many years to come.
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Re: Will Andy win a clay tournament in 2013? « Reply #51 on: February 05, 2013, 09:52 PM »
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If sliding on clay could wreck his knee/ankles - and thus possibly the rest of his career I think I'd rather he maximised the skill he has on clay and does the best he can to fulfil his ambitions - without sliding - to enable him to enjoy year round success for many years to come.
Yep.  I guess we only have to look at Rafa's knees now to appreciate this.
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Re: Will Andy win a clay tournament in 2013? « Reply #52 on: February 05, 2013, 10:03 PM »
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Yep.  I guess we only have to look at Rafa's knees now to appreciate this.

Have to confess I quite like to look at all of Rafa, not just his knees lol (tho not in that mega muscle pic on one of the other threads, reminds me of the plastic wrestling figures kis were bringing in to school a few years ago)
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Re: Will Andy win a clay tournament in 2013? « Reply #53 on: February 05, 2013, 10:03 PM »
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Kids not kis
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Re: Will Andy win a clay tournament in 2013? « Reply #54 on: February 05, 2013, 10:08 PM »
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Have to confess I quite like to look at all of Rafa, not just his knees lol (tho not in that mega muscle pic on one of the other threads, reminds me of the plastic wrestling figures kis were bringing in to school a few years ago)
Hehe!  He is defs 'easy on the eye', and a sweetheart whether he wins or loses.  I think tennis has been the sadder without him.    Fed and Djok are a bit arsey compared to Rambo Rafa!  Very Happy
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Re: Will Andy win a clay tournament in 2013? « Reply #55 on: February 05, 2013, 10:16 PM »
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He seems very respectful of other players, the history of the game and remembers his roots. Remember the year he pulled out of Wimbledon and went in person to do so and apologise. Always comes across as more humble than Smugfed and the Djoker. Though quite like Nole (just not when he plays Andy!) Certainly wont see Andy or Rafa wearing monogrammed blazers etc!
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Re: Will Andy win a clay tournament in 2013? « Reply #56 on: February 05, 2013, 10:27 PM »
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He seems very respectful of other players, the history of the game and remembers his roots. Remember the year he pulled out of Wimbledon and went in person to do so and apologise. Always comes across as more humble than Smugfed and the Djoker. Though quite like Nole (just not when he plays Andy!) Certainly wont see Andy or Rafa wearing monogrammed blazers etc!
Yup - Rafa is one of the greatest, but still maintains a certain humility and a lot of respect for his opponents.  I can't do with Djok's celebrations of his wins - now that may be just sour grapes as an Andy fan - but I think they are OTT and show a lack of respect.  As for RF's jackets?  I think the man needs to take his head out of his own backside. Self congratulation is never very attractive. 
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Re: Will Andy win a clay tournament in 2013? « Reply #57 on: February 05, 2013, 11:46 PM »
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He can't slide. End of story.

What if he attached skis to his shoes? Would that help?
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Re: Will Andy win a clay tournament in 2013? « Reply #58 on: February 06, 2013, 03:07 AM »
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If sliding on clay could wreck his knee/ankles - and thus possibly the rest of his career I think I'd rather he maximised the skill he has on clay and does the best he can to fulfil his ambitions - without sliding - to enable him to enjoy year round success for many years to come.
I agree.  Meanwhile Andy has announced that he won't be playing any tournament before IW because he wants to focus on the clay court season and RG in particular.  So will he be practising on clay in Miami? - because if he doesn't then I don't see the point in this because going into a Masters 'cold' doesn't seem the brightest idea around, especially after a five week break from competition, and also he could pick up a lot of ranking points there given that he has none to defend after last year's embarrassing early exit.
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Re: Will Andy win a clay tournament in 2013? « Reply #59 on: February 06, 2013, 05:19 AM »
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I have a friend who used to work at Wimby and she was not too impressed with Nadal off court. She says the Andy was shy but always the gentleman.  The other two did not impress either.
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