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Question: Who will progress?
Andy's fine tuned a few of his shots and denies Ivan a 4th round place. - 15 (53.6%)
Ivan can't believe he's made it to the 4th round in straight sets, for the first time. - 1 (3.6%)
A slow start from Andy gives Ivan the 1st set, but there's no looking back after that for Andy. - 8 (28.6%)
Ivan whips up a storm to take it in 4 and into the 4th round, for the 1st time. - 1 (3.6%)
Andy gives the crowd a 5 set thriller to advance to the 4th round. - 2 (7.1%)
Ivan breaks the hearts of the nation to send Andy packing in the 3rd round after 5 sets. - 0 (0%)
The game is on centre court but they can't play as the roof gets stuck and it's raining. - 1 (3.6%)
Total Voters: 27

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Re: Wimbledon R3: Murray vs Ljubicic « Reply #15 on: June 23, 2011, 09:34 PM »
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Murray last on centre court with Roddick first on centre court. Nadal on court 1 3rd on.

Will be interesting to see if Federer gets his turn on court 1 on Saturday.
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Re: Wimbledon R3: Murray vs Ljubicic « Reply #16 on: June 23, 2011, 09:50 PM »
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Doubt it. I think if there's anyone they'll favour, it's him.
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Re: Wimbledon R3: Murray vs Ljubicic « Reply #17 on: June 23, 2011, 09:51 PM »
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Ljubicic is one of those players who I always believe has the potential of being dangerous but doesn't usually live up to expectations. I expect an easy Murray 3-set win.
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Re: Wimbledon R3: Murray vs Ljubicic « Reply #18 on: June 23, 2011, 10:51 PM »
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Thanks for all this great info.....
Stomachs churning already
 cmonandy  Be Mr Magic beat Ljubicic!!
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Re: Wimbledon R3: Murray vs Ljubicic « Reply #19 on: June 23, 2011, 10:58 PM »
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I'd say 3 but then I always hesitate and wonder-will he throw in a shocker just to upset my day? So I'm going for 4 to be safe Very Happy
I'll even be in to see the match as well yay
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Re: Wimbledon R3: Murray vs Ljubicic « Reply #20 on: June 24, 2011, 02:02 AM »
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You've excelled yourself Bev with your H2H information here.  But when was that photo of IL taken I wonder - he looks very youthful compared with now!

lol  Having the day off helped.  I nearly posted one with almost a full head of hair, actually, I'll post it Very Happy


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Re: Wimbledon R3: Murray vs Ljubicic « Reply #21 on: June 24, 2011, 02:10 AM »
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Rusedski on Murray v Ljubicic    From the beeb

World number four Andy Murray takes another step in his bid to become the first British winner of the men's singles at Wimbledon since Fred Perry 75 years ago when he faces Ivan Ljubicic in the third round.

His progress so far has been serene, but he will be facing a seasoned competitor in Ljubicic in what is set to be an intriguing clash.

Now in his 30's, the veteran Croatian may be in the twilight of his career but still possesses the game and the serve to push Murray all the way.

Here Greg Rusedski, who faced Ljubicic during his career, analyses where the match could be won or lost and the respective strengths and weaknesses of both players.

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Historically Ivan Ljubicic hasn't been at his best on grass and has gone out in the first round in seven of his previous 11 appearances at Wimbledon.

This is a strange statistic for such a good player, who has a wonderful serve and a wonderful one-handed backhand. His forehand side is a little bit weaker so he tends to mix it up - he will come forward at times - but he is more comfortable from the back of the court.

His best grand slam performance came at the French Open in 2006 when he reached the semi-finals and a career high of number three in the world.

Despite being over 30, he actually won the Masters Series at Indian Wells last year to become the first Croatian to do so. Recently, he played very well at the French Open before losing to Rafael Nadal in the fourth round.

He is a guy who is enjoying the latter stages of his career right now and has absolutely nothing to lose against Andy Murray.

WHAT IS THE KEY SHOT FOR BOTH PLAYERS?

MURRAY
Actually, you have got to look at three shots with Andy. Firstly, how well he is going to serve because he has such great variety.

Secondly, I will be looking at his forehand up the line because most of the players these days are always expecting cross court forehands so he needs to flatten that one out. If he is hitting that shot well that is a great sign about how healthy the state of his game is.

And thirdly, his return of Ljubicic's serve is going to be key.

LJUBICIC
It's his massive serve. It's not just the speed or the accuracy of his first serve, but what all the best servers have is a great second serve. Not only that, but his backhand is also a big weapon.

WHAT WEAKNESSES DO THEY HAVE IN THEIR GAMES?
MURRAY
I think it comes down to his mentality. The key for me is for him to carry the consistency forward that we have seen from him in his first two matches through hopefully all seven matches of this championships.

If you look at Roger Federer, Rafael Nadal and Novak Djokovic at the moment no matter who they are playing, even if it is someone who is 250th in the world or the very best, they always have the same approach. All the top players do things systematically and routinely and Murray is starting to get that now from the work he is doing with Darren Cahill.

LJUBICIC
I think the forehand side is the weakness for Ljubicic as it can really be up and down at times. He doesn't move as well as he used to and he doesn't have a two-handed return, he kind of chips it back at times so that will give Andy the chance to be aggressive.

HOW IS THEIR FITNESS AND MOVEMENT?
MURRAY
Obviously Murray is the stronger of the two. Right now he is at the physical peak of his career and is in incredible shape.

LJUBICIC
The good thing for Murray is that Ljubicic is not in his 20's anymore. He is 32 and that is a big advantage. He has kept himself in great shape, but unfortunately you get half a step slower when you get into your thirties. Trust me.

HOW COULD THE CONDITIONS AFFECT THE MATCH?
The conditions will make a massive difference if they play on Centre Court with the roof on. The court becomes a lot slower under cover, which for a big server like Ljubcic is a major factor.

This will play right into Murray's hands as he will win the battle from the back of the court. The courts are already slower than they were as the rye grass doesn't have any thistle now, so the balls get heavier because the felt fluffs up, and the pressure of the balls is a lot less.

Having the roof on only exacerbates this so this would be a big advantage for Murray.

WHAT IS YOUR VERDICT?
I can't really see an upset happening.

Maybe Murray could lose a set, but if he returns well enough and stays on the forehand side of Ljubicic you have to expect him to win in three/four sets.

It's a great match-up - one of the best servers in the world against one of the best returners.






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Re: Wimbledon R3: Murray vs Ljubicic « Reply #22 on: June 24, 2011, 10:46 AM »
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Slightly nervous, but I hope Andy can do this is straight sets.  cmonandy
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Re: Wimbledon R3: Murray vs Ljubicic « Reply #23 on: June 24, 2011, 12:50 PM »
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MR. MAGIC YOU'RE FANTASTIC....LET'S GO! GOOD LUCK ANDY! C'MOOOOON! cmon yeah
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Re: Wimbledon R3: Murray vs Ljubicic « Reply #24 on: June 24, 2011, 02:42 PM »
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This is a nice place to come when nerves are high, at least I'm not alone.  May the force be with you Andy and of course Mr. Magic.  nervous
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Re: Wimbledon R3: Murray vs Ljubicic « Reply #25 on: June 24, 2011, 02:45 PM »
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Brad Gilbert has Andy winning today.....yes
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Re: Wimbledon R3: Murray vs Ljubicic « Reply #26 on: June 24, 2011, 02:47 PM »
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Just heard part of an interview with Henman and he too picks Murray.  He says Murray is a better player now (I'm guessing this is in reference to their previous encounters).
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Re: Wimbledon R3: Murray vs Ljubicic « Reply #27 on: June 24, 2011, 03:14 PM »
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for anyone interested, Roddick down 2 sets, down a break in the third.
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Re: Wimbledon R3: Murray vs Ljubicic « Reply #28 on: June 24, 2011, 03:25 PM »
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for anyone interested, Roddick down 2 sets, down a break in the third.

I sort of want Roddick to mount a come back, dont like him but love a good 5 setter (unless its our Andy of course)
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Re: Wimbledon R3: Murray vs Ljubicic « Reply #29 on: June 24, 2011, 03:26 PM »
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for anyone interested, Roddick down 2 sets, down a break in the third.
Can't say I'm surprised.  Sorry, Nigel.  sorry
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