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Re: Wimbledon SF: Murray v Tsonga « Reply #75 on: July 05, 2012, 10:23 PM »
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You being there must have brought Andy good luck, happy that you will be there tomorrow to root him on.:-)

Unfortunately will be doing the supporting from my armchair tomorrow sorry my post was misleading can see how.  It was fantastic to watch yesterday although more stressful than watching at home, cant hide behind the sofa. Think Grabcopy was supposed to be  there too.
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Re: Wimbledon SF: Murray v Tsonga « Reply #76 on: July 05, 2012, 10:33 PM »
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I will go mental if he wins tomorrow. Would mean that much just to reach the final here.

Come on Andy.
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Re: Wimbledon SF: Murray v Tsonga « Reply #77 on: July 05, 2012, 10:35 PM »
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Oh well everyone, off to bed to dreams dreams of a Wimbledon final pray

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Re: Wimbledon SF: Murray v Tsonga « Reply #78 on: July 05, 2012, 11:08 PM »
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That would be like having all my birthdays at once.
    I hope not - you might die happy, but you're surely too young to die!!
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Re: Wimbledon SF: Murray v Tsonga « Reply #79 on: July 05, 2012, 11:12 PM »
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They say that the court plays slower under the roof, which I think would favour Andy because Jo relies at lot on his big serve. 

Awful as it seems, I wouldn't be a bit surprised if a lot of the crowd are behind Jo - he's a charismatic character and very popular with the British public.  I still haven't forgotten the huge cheer Rafa got when he walked out on court for the semis last year - it was louder than Andy's and made me ashamed to be British.  Let's hope that the Murray fans drown out any dissention!
I remember that. They did cheer for Andy too, but the big canons like Fed and Rafa have massive support all around the world. Tomorrow will be different Wink
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Re: Wimbledon SF: Murray v Tsonga « Reply #80 on: July 05, 2012, 11:22 PM »
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Here is the Lendl Coaches Murray interview that Michelle brought up.  I watched it and it is really good.
An enlightening long interview. What a solid guy Lendl is makes me have so much respect for him.

Thanks for the link Apollo. Smile
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Re: Wimbledon SF: Murray v Tsonga « Reply #81 on: July 05, 2012, 11:35 PM »
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An enlightening long interview. What a solid guy Lendl is makes me have so much respect for him.

Thanks for the link Apollo. Smile

ditto, many thanks. That was fascinating.
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Re: Wimbledon SF: Murray v Tsonga « Reply #82 on: July 06, 2012, 12:56 AM »
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I disagree with this part of your post (agree with the rest), now that Murray has actually survived his very difficult draw up until now, I see it as an advantage.
Tsonga has had it easy, too easy like the other 3 & yet he still dropped sets but is now in for a shock. Andy is ready hopefully its in 3 but probably 4. Being the first brit in 76 years to get through to a final might help in him in his quest to be the first brit in 76 to actually win it. But thats for another thread hopefully.

Playing one competitive match after another is really not ideal for anyone for that matter. Against Cilic, Andy got slightly lucky because Cilic was all spent by the time arrived to the 4th round. Even a rain delay couldn't help him. Andy is, of course, the better player in both cases - be it Cilic or Tsonga but it does wear you down as it goes along. Part of me likes to assess the match from a more neutral point and I'd like to take every single thing into account, because in a GS semi-final match, every single thing counts and they all matter in some way. Mind you, even though Andy is 2-0 against Tsonga on grass, both matches were fairly competitive, so while the 5-1 looks very good, it's not really telling you everything. Anyway, let's say I am thinking out loud. I don't want to be hugely disappointed - at the same time, I have no reason to be too negative either. I am just keeping a bit more healthy perspective of things, so that I can take the win or loss accordingly. Andy's been in semifinal already 3 times so obviously this is a familiar territory for him and he also has the 5-1 lead over Tsonga, but nothing is truly guaranteed. Many have picked Nole over Federer but Nole just might find his hands full tomorrow, because Federer is mighty fresh and it will matter in the semi. Unfortunately for him though, Nole too is very fresh but still, I feel uncomfortable about this match. I am more sure about Andy's match I must admit.

You picked Andy in 3 against Ferrer as well. Not nitpicking just saying, so, you know... :p
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Re: Wimbledon SF: Murray v Tsonga « Reply #83 on: July 06, 2012, 01:11 AM »
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Laver's comments were in a BBC interview - just the usual about wanting Andy to be more aggressive.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/tennis/18713039

Thanks, Katie. Like Bill, didn't like the comments all that much. He's not saying anything new. And could have done without the Fed stuff.

I don't know what he was smoking but Andy played pretty aggressive in the 3rd and 4th set. All his points especially in the 4th set were pretty short and he was aggressive enough against the likes of Davydenko and Cilic - two very aggressive players. He had to be careful against Karlovic. The only places where I though Andy went slightly wrong and was more passive were the first two sets against Ferrer. There were times in the past when Andy came out firing against other players. You can tell that he do it if he wants to but most times, he resorts to being a bit passive. I don't think that's his default style but rather he's a bit lazy and sometimes, he just loves to toy/play around a bit. He doesn't feel he has to be aggressive right from the start. When things matter and if he's in a hurry and wants to win asap, he becomes aggressive right away. It's within his reach and he's very comfortable as well, but he won't always go for it especially if he has time. Also, he likes to make the transition once he feels he's in control of the match. I would never label Andy's game. It's much more complicated than that.

And Andy definitely needs to be full aggressive against a player like Ferrer. Federer, for example, is absolutely ruthless against Ferrer hence the very one sided H2H. If you play Ferrer's game, it will go on forever. Ferrer can't afford it against Nadal because Nadal is just as much a beast and more. And of course, a superior player on almost all accounts.
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Re: Wimbledon SF: Murray v Tsonga « Reply #84 on: July 06, 2012, 01:12 AM »
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So here we are guys, it's the night before the big one, I have everything crossed and so want Andy to do this, now I have spent a lot of time this afternoon thinking about this, Andy has done so well, just two weeks ago there was a lot of negativity doing the rounds about how difficult Andy's draw was going to be and how his form had dipped and was Ivan the man for the job, well in the space of a week and three days Andy has answered all these doubts and more.  There are some real positives to be taken from his performances over the past few days, that forehand is booming, the serve has been consistent, the shot making in latter parts of his matches has been jaw droppingly  awesome but the biggest thing is his attitude and mental fortitude, he already had everything else it just needed honed a wee bit but now it is accompanied by a steeliness that is getting him through trying testing games.  David Ferrer played the best tennis I think I have ever seen him play, Andy was better and closed it out - would that have happened pre Lendl?

So come on Andy one step at a time, the next step is getting past Tsonga, you can do this, it now feels  more people are on your side and willing you onwards.  Nae bad for a wee lad fae Scotland, now go forth and let the Scottish lion roar, it's been kept quiet for too long.  Come on a couple more Braveheart performances but please can you do it in three sets tomorrow as I feel like I have aged about 20 years during that last match.

The lion is awake and tomorrow he roars, it is now officially MURRAY TIME........

P.s. So glad to be a part of MW and speaking to people who understand the complexities of being Murray fans and the enormities of the next 24 hours, it really helps!!!

What about your eyes, MM? Are they crossed too? Please say it ain't so. That won't be pretty. :p
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Re: Wimbledon SF: Murray v Tsonga « Reply #85 on: July 06, 2012, 01:13 AM »
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Going on this tournament so far, we don't have to worry unless Tsonga goes 2 sets up. Even then he could still come back, but would obviously be in deep trouble. If Andy can take one of the first two sets then we must keep calm and have faith, as so far this tournament he's produced his best tennis in the 3rd and 4th sets.
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Re: Wimbledon SF: Murray v Tsonga « Reply #86 on: July 06, 2012, 01:14 AM »
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Well.. I guess many of you in the UK will be sleeping (or trying to sleep) by now. I've still got a few hours to try not to think too much about tomorrow.. but the upside is when I get up in the morning, I won't have to wait too long.

I've been getting messages from Scotland from family and friends bcos they know I've been a massive supporter of Andy since the beginning, and will bore the pants off anyone who mentions his name. yes
I've had to defend him to many doubters in my time.. but today my sister (in Scotland) said she was amazed at how grown up Andy is, and how well he's handling himself on court. She was impressed.

I'm so very, very proud of Andy and the way he has stepped up to the plate.
Tomorrow is another match.. one at a time.
Wishing you all a restful night, a refreshing morning, and hopefully a reason for us to celebrate tomorrow. Until then... wave
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Re: Wimbledon SF: Murray v Tsonga « Reply #87 on: July 06, 2012, 02:03 AM »
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I slept SN - 3 nights of interupted sleep caught up with me Very Happy  Going to get a few hours later tonight so I can see the end of the 'showstopper' and the start of Andy's match.

My dilemma will be do I watch on tv and not partake in MW or watch on computer and tap happily away on my keyboard with all you lovely people Think
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Re: Wimbledon SF: Murray v Tsonga « Reply #88 on: July 06, 2012, 02:16 AM »
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 cmonandy

Good luck versus Jo! My fingers are crossed for an Andy and Nole final - it would be  wub
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Re: Wimbledon SF: Murray v Tsonga « Reply #89 on: July 06, 2012, 03:15 AM »
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Who are the naughty 2 who put Tsonga to win.   shocking
Gone up to 6 now secret service agent - and no, I'm not one of them, although I do think this match will be very close.

Can't believe how nervous some of you are already. lol  My nerves don't usually kick in until just before the match starts.  I just hope Andy gets over his nervousness quickly this time because he can't afford not to against Tsonga who, from his interview, is relishing the fact that he's the underdog, and underdogs just love to bite.
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