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Re: Daniel Evans « Reply #1170 on: February 25, 2014, 07:25 PM »
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   I think that was irony, Elly. You're usually good at that!
Can't think what you mean, FR!  Wink
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Re: Daniel Evans « Reply #1171 on: February 25, 2014, 08:06 PM »
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Um, yes I do. It's where you blow a substantial lead in a match while looking firmly in control, you could choke the match away or lose the lead you've earnt but still win the match later. 
No, it really isn't. Players lose matches. Players make comebacks. The player who gets off to the better start often can't sustain it - that's not choking, that's just tennis - especially when it's a lower ranked player!

I didn't see today's match, but against Stakhovsky Evans definitely did not 'choke'. It was a very, very close match for two sets with Evans creating chances but the higher ranked player stepping it up every time.  The lower ranked player than eventually was unable to sustain his level and the vast experience and quality higher ranked player eventually shone through.

Choking had absolutely nothing to do with it.

Now I didn't see the match today but going by those that did, Evans was doing well but again his level dropped and his opponent outplayed him. But losing in three sets, with only the one break difference in each, having not had a 'significant' lead in any of them, is NOT choking.

It really is tiresome when some people label any defeat as a 'choke'. When Murray lost to Cilic the other day, did he choke? Of course he didn't - the better player won on the day. Such is tennis.
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Re: Daniel Evans « Reply #1172 on: February 25, 2014, 08:26 PM »
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No, it really isn't. Players lose matches. Players make comebacks. The player who gets off to the better start often can't sustain it - that's not choking, that's just tennis - especially when it's a lower ranked player!

I didn't see today's match, but against Stakhovsky Evans definitely did not 'choke'. It was a very, very close match for two sets with Evans creating chances but the higher ranked player stepping it up every time.  The lower ranked player than eventually was unable to sustain his level and the vast experience and quality higher ranked player eventually shone through.

Choking had absolutely nothing to do with it.

Now I didn't see the match today but going by those that did, Evans was doing well but again his level dropped and his opponent outplayed him. But losing in three sets, with only the one break difference in each, having not had a 'significant' lead in any of them, is NOT choking.

It really is tiresome when some people label any defeat as a 'choke'. When Murray lost to Cilic the other day, did he choke? Of course he didn't - the better player won on the day. Such is tennis.

No, how could Murray have choked if he was never in the lead?
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Re: Daniel Evans « Reply #1173 on: February 25, 2014, 08:33 PM »
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Anyone know when Dan next plays?
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Re: Daniel Evans « Reply #1174 on: February 25, 2014, 08:35 PM »
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Anyone know when Dan next plays?

Indian Wells qualies.
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Re: Daniel Evans « Reply #1175 on: February 25, 2014, 08:42 PM »
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Indian Wells qualies.
Great - thanks.
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Re: Daniel Evans « Reply #1176 on: February 25, 2014, 08:46 PM »
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No, how could Murray have choked if he was never in the lead?
So any player who ever loses a match having ever been ahead, choked?

Can't tell if you're an utter moron or just a tedious troll.
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Re: Daniel Evans « Reply #1177 on: February 25, 2014, 09:06 PM »
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Can't tell if you're an utter moron or just a tedious troll.
Cmon M.H. It's our Connor yer talking about, treat him with respect....he,s both.  lol
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Re: Daniel Evans « Reply #1178 on: February 25, 2014, 09:09 PM »
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So any player who ever loses a match having ever been ahead, choked?

Can't tell if you're an utter moron or just a tedious troll.

No I never said every match lost while a player has been ahead is a choke Rolling Eyes and in answer to that I'm neither, tar.
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Re: Daniel Evans « Reply #1179 on: February 25, 2014, 09:19 PM »
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He lost today from being a set and a break up. He lost in Marseille last week after having loads of break points in the second set against Stakhovsky, then becoming a non factor in the tiebreak and third set.

Didn't watch either match then. 
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Re: Daniel Evans « Reply #1180 on: February 25, 2014, 09:22 PM »
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Didn't watch either match then. 

Well Marseille wasn't streamed, but I did watch yesterdays match.
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Re: Daniel Evans « Reply #1181 on: February 25, 2014, 09:23 PM »
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Dan's temperament isn't so far away from Andy's. The difference is that Andy has learned to control the frustration and use it.

The real issue for Dan is inconsistency. He can be brilliant, and when he is you can see how he could be a top 50 player. It's his concentration he needs to work on. He's got the ability to trouble a lot of players.

Totally agree Teejay. I love his game and his guts.   He thrives on atmosphere like Andy too and the challengers have none.  Hopefully he can push through to the main draw in Indian wells.
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Re: Daniel Evans « Reply #1182 on: February 25, 2014, 09:30 PM »
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Well Marseille wasn't streamed, but I did watch yesterdays match.

Then I can only conclude madhatter is right. 
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Re: Daniel Evans « Reply #1183 on: February 25, 2014, 09:32 PM »
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Then I can only conclude madhatter is right. 

Sorry, what?
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Re: Daniel Evans « Reply #1184 on: March 10, 2014, 11:15 AM »
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Dan is in Texas, is 1st seed in qualifying for Irving Challenger. Plays Juan-Carlos Spir today at 3pm UK time.

There is also another Brit in the Q draw - Samm Butler - who won a pre-qualifying competition for a WC! I saw him practising at the WTF last year - just after he'd done warm up duties with Fed. He's left handed, and was helping Fed prepare for his match v Rafa.
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