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Re: Rudeski and Murray « Reply #30 on: April 16, 2006, 09:56 PM »
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yeah i woudl like to see roddick win , he has been there so many times and although he had a bit of a dip in form at the start of the season he is back on form now and come july i think he will have a good chance
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Re: Rudeski and Murray « Reply #31 on: April 17, 2006, 10:09 AM »
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Ok, on the whole Tim issue I must say I'm not his biggest fan. And I do have good reason! Don't get me wrong I think he's good, he had to be to get where he has. I feel sorry for him cause he's never won a slam (not necessarily Wimbledon but any slam) and I don't think he will because his game doesn't suit todays play and he doesn't play it as well as he used to. But I don't like his character, or what we see of it. He's arrogant and always blames something other than his game for a loss. I mean, Andy's arrogant but when he plays crap he says I lost cause I played crap! And he lost me as a fan the day he hit the ball girl. There was no need for it and he only really seemed remorseful when the press gave him a hard time about it. But more recently the thing I don't like about him is this article.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/live/live.html?in_article_id=381164&in_page_id=1889

I mean, just because Andy has stood up and made it acceptable to be an angry British tennis player and everyone loves it you drop the beige act and adopt a role of passionate middle aged man? It's silly and it isn't going to win him any more fans. He was good, yes. And as long as he still loves it of course he should still play. But he needs to stop chasing the spotlight he's been complaining about for years. It's moved on, so should he.
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Re: Rudeski and Murray « Reply #32 on: April 17, 2006, 10:17 AM »
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I like that... thanks. Very Happy
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Re: Rudeski and Murray « Reply #33 on: April 17, 2006, 10:26 AM »
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It's an interesting read cause it's what most of us have wanted from Tim for years! but the fact that it has taken Andy's attitude to bring it out of him makes me dislike him more.
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Re: Rudeski and Murray « Reply #34 on: April 17, 2006, 01:08 PM »
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His profile has started to go the way of the thong.

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Re: Rudeski and Murray « Reply #35 on: April 17, 2006, 02:00 PM »
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Ok, on the whole Tim issue I must say I'm not his biggest fan. And I do have good reason! Don't get me wrong I think he's good, he had to be to get where he has. I feel sorry for him cause he's never won a slam (not necessarily Wimbledon but any slam) and I don't think he will because his game doesn't suit todays play and he doesn't play it as well as he used to. But I don't like his character, or what we see of it. He's arrogant and always blames something other than his game for a loss. I mean, Andy's arrogant but when he plays crap he says I lost cause I played crap! And he lost me as a fan the day he hit the ball girl. There was no need for it and he only really seemed remorseful when the press gave him a hard time about it. But more recently the thing I don't like about him is this article.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/live/live.html?in_article_id=381164&in_page_id=1889

I mean, just because Andy has stood up and made it acceptable to be an angry British tennis player and everyone loves it you drop the beige act and adopt a role of passionate middle aged man? It's silly and it isn't going to win him any more fans. He was good, yes. And as long as he still loves it of course he should still play. But he needs to stop chasing the spotlight he's been complaining about for years. It's moved on, so should he.


What a great article and why hate him because of it?  I'm baffled!  confused

Perhaps Tim now felt that the pressure was off him, not having the 'hopes of a nation' on his shoulders, and he's coming upto the end of his career, what has he got to lose?  Did he come from a privillaged background?  Yes, but that wasn't his fault!  He made the most of what was put in front of him.  Has he made a lot of money?  Yes.  But nothing near as much as some other sport 'stars' and yes, probably more than other sport 'stars' but again, he's made the most of what was put in front of him.  Would you turn down the opportunity of sponsorship?

I suppose I shouldn't hate Fed 'cause I don't really know him but he is a great tennis player.  And I'm sure that there are some players out there that would envy Tim's tennis record - how long did he spend in the top rankings?  How many of them have reached semi-final's of Wimbledon?  There won't be many who have a better record.

Like the old saying goes, never judge a book by it's cover!  I'll start and heed my own advice too!
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Re: Rudeski and Murray « Reply #36 on: April 17, 2006, 02:09 PM »
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It's not his money or privelaged background at all. I don't have a problem with players taking sponsorship at all. It's their right if they're good enough. It's the fact that now Murray's on the scene he seems to be changing his character and admitting he's volitile. Don't get me wrong, I like it. It's just the fact that it's taken Murray to change the face of British Tennis for us to get to see this side of Tim. If it weren't for Murray would we even get to see it at all? I doubt it. This is what makes me question the motivation. If he is just a private person and is naturally reserved why do this now? I get Tim as a player cause he's good, and consistantly acts the same on court. It's Tim off court I don't get, and to be honest, don't really like.
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Re: Rudeski and Murray « Reply #37 on: April 17, 2006, 02:19 PM »
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Right.  Got that.  But what don't you like off court about him - specifically?  He's a private person.  He hates the press.  Age sometimes does things to you!  I've been 30 and am in the next decade, I can relate to that!  Also, do you think that the press would have given Tim as easier time if he'd gone about in the same way as Andy?  I just don't think that it was his style then and he's a little older, wiser, and a parent now.  Changes your perspective on life a little! I really think that the pressure is off him now and he's more relaxed but will still be guarded as far as the press are concerned.
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Re: Rudeski and Murray « Reply #38 on: April 17, 2006, 02:26 PM »
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I just feel that recently he's missed the press. He's been moaning about it for ten years and now the spotlight's off he's chasing it a bit. I've always seen him as a bit arrogant too. Like I said before, he doesn't ever just admit that the other player was better than him and that's why he lost and I don't like that in a sports personality. Football managers do it all the time, commentators can't help themselves during the world cup and it just bothers me. It's difficult to put my finger on but he just gets my back up. That's the best I can describe it.
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Re: Rudeski and Murray « Reply #39 on: April 17, 2006, 02:33 PM »
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I can't put my finger on why I don't like Fed either!  Or Nadal!

Press part I can't really comment on - been out of touch with British press for last 6 weeks!  Was quite surprised Andy made NZ sport news at the weekend - parting from Petch.

We shall have to agree to disagree about Tim!  hug
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Re: Rudeski and Murray « Reply #40 on: April 17, 2006, 02:36 PM »
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Sure. I respect that. Like I say I respect what Tim has done in Tennis and for British tennis. If it wasn't for him we wouldn't have guys like Andy coming through. I do think it's a shame for him that he hasn't won a slam cause he does deserve it and I think that his Q and A on his website shows a huge respect for his fans. I just can't say that I am one.
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Re: Rudeski and Murray « Reply #41 on: April 17, 2006, 02:47 PM »
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I just wish, for the sake of British tennis, there were more like him - Andy!

The British just have no idea sometimes!  Unless we promote, encourage, nurture more up and coming players, then we are never going to have world class players and that goes in all sports, not just tennis.

Ah yes, the Q&A section of Tim's website - me and him are nearly on first names!  He's answered a few of my questions!
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Re: Rudeski and Murray « Reply #42 on: April 17, 2006, 02:51 PM »
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That's quite cool. You must have good ones! And how much do I wish there were more Andy's. Mind you, with enough support and hard work we could have a few, James Aukland, Jamie Baker, A Bog, C Fleming and this Graham Dyce guy but to name a few youngsters. Could be an interesting 5 years for British tennis. 5 players in top 100, can we dare to dream!
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Re: Rudeski and Murray « Reply #43 on: April 17, 2006, 02:53 PM »
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Ok, on the whole Tim issue I must say I'm not his biggest fan. And I do have good reason! Don't get me wrong I think he's good, he had to be to get where he has. I feel sorry for him cause he's never won a slam (not necessarily Wimbledon but any slam) and I don't think he will because his game doesn't suit todays play and he doesn't play it as well as he used to. But I don't like his character, or what we see of it. He's arrogant and always blames something other than his game for a loss. I mean, Andy's arrogant but when he plays crap he says I lost cause I played crap! And he lost me as a fan the day he hit the ball girl. There was no need for it and he only really seemed remorseful when the press gave him a hard time about it. But more recently the thing I don't like about him is this article.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/live/live.html?in_article_id=381164&in_page_id=1889

I mean, just because Andy has stood up and made it acceptable to be an angry British tennis player and everyone loves it you drop the beige act and adopt a role of passionate middle aged man? It's silly and it isn't going to win him any more fans. He was good, yes. And as long as he still loves it of course he should still play. But he needs to stop chasing the spotlight he's been complaining about for years. It's moved on, so should he.

 Agree 100% I was trying to say this earlier. I think hes a posh arrogant ass
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Re: Rudeski and Murray « Reply #44 on: April 17, 2006, 02:55 PM »
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Perhaps a little harsh but I'm glad you agree with me.
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