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Should Bogdanovic Play The Final Rubber If It is Live!?!?

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I'm writing This seconds after Murray/Delgado lost in 5 sets To Elrich/Ram making the tie 2-1 To Israel.
It is going to Be Okun v Murray first up tomorrow, but i just wondered after the widespread damning of Bogdanovic's first performance does anybody reckon He should be replaced??? And If So Who Should It Go To out of Delgado/Mackin??
I Personally think it would harm Bogdanovic if he was to play again and lose, therefore however much i am a fan of Boggo i would like to see Mackin play the final rubber even if the tie was dead.
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Re: Should Bogdanovic Play The Final Rubber If It is Live!?!? « Reply #1 on: July 22, 2006, 08:14 PM »
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I voted no.

After yesterday's performance I can't see him beating anyone, no matter what the rankings might say. I think the pressure of Davis Cup has really got to Boggo. Sorry guys, but he just doesn't cut it.
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Re: Should Bogdanovic Play The Final Rubber If It is Live!?!? « Reply #2 on: July 22, 2006, 08:15 PM »
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Jamie Delgado's Challenger record in 2006 - Played 5 Won 1.

Alan Mackin's senior career record - Played 14 Won 0.

A Bog's 2006 highlights - 2 Challenger titles including Bergamo, quarter finalist at an ATP Tour event for the first time.


Now please choose everyone.....
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Re: Should Bogdanovic Play The Final Rubber If It is Live!?!? « Reply #3 on: July 22, 2006, 08:20 PM »
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Sorry Arka, but this is Davis Cup, and it's a completely different prospect. Boggo looked totally down and out yesterday, it was terrible... no fighting spirit at all.

Ok so Delgado lost the doubles today with Andy, but to me he looked like he really wanted it badly. Boggo didn't, and I'd actually say that Jamie would have more of a chance of winning tomorrow than Alex despite recent results and rankings.

I really can't comment on Mackin because I don't know enough about him.
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Re: Should Bogdanovic Play The Final Rubber If It is Live!?!? « Reply #4 on: July 22, 2006, 08:20 PM »
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good point arka ... everyone has bad days and matches so i think he should have a chance , i voted yes
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Re: Should Bogdanovic Play The Final Rubber If It is Live!?!? « Reply #5 on: July 22, 2006, 08:48 PM »
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I just commented on this in a different thread. By about the middle of the fourth set today I started to think that Delgado would be the best pick. He looked as if he wanted to play and he was able to rise to the occassion and draw inspiration from the crowd. I totally agree that if Boggo played and lost that it would seriously damage his career for the next few years. The guy just seems to have no confidence and doesn't seem to rise to DC at all.
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Re: Should Bogdanovic Play The Final Rubber If It is Live!?!? « Reply #6 on: July 22, 2006, 11:07 PM »
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The guy just seems to have no confidence and doesn't seem to rise to DC at all.

Is it? He has a win against Woodbridge by the way. He lost his match against Hewitt and lost to Okun twice. Maybe he does not rise to Okun at all? Bugbears do exist in tennis. Federer can't play against Nadal but Nadal is inferior to him.

And although there is absolutely no comparison between the two, A Bog's win against Woodbridge is far more impressive than Andy's win against Ram.
You cannot kick a player out on the basis of his performance in one or two matches. But hardly anyone will listen to that.... I remember how convinced half the tennis world was of Andy going down after his abysmal run on clay.


And Delgado is yet to win a singles match in the DC. He suffered two bagels out of three sets at the hands of Byron Black(love this man by the way) and A Bog's 5-7 1-6 2-6 loss against Hewitt was definitely far more impressive. And lets not forget that he played Hewitt and Woodbidge on clay, which happens to be his worst surface.

A Bog deserves at least five more chances before he is dropped. And I'm pretty sure that after five more chances, you wont feel like dropping him, just like Andy showed during Wimbly that he is far from down and out!
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Bogdanovic or Delgado, who should play? « Reply #7 on: July 22, 2006, 11:08 PM »
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Who do you think should play in the last rubber of the DC?, it's a tough one but I think they should give bogdanovic another shot but I am stuck because Delgado played well today and he showed more emotion and belief than Bogdanovic but I think ABog still has something up his sleeve, oh it's hard, help me out guys.
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Re: Bogdanovic or Delgado, who should play? « Reply #8 on: July 22, 2006, 11:12 PM »
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Ok I have just noticed that someone put a thread up before me simalar to this one, here's me thinking I was smart and clever but it's just made me look stupid Crying or Very sad.
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Re: Bogdanovic or Delgado, who should play? « Reply #9 on: July 23, 2006, 12:08 AM »
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Well i think delgado deserves to play more going by this weekend, but i think if boggo played he would win, but on the slight chance he lost he would lose so much confidence.
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Re: Should Bogdanovic Play The Final Rubber If It is Live!?!? « Reply #10 on: July 23, 2006, 12:29 AM »
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His win was in a dead rubber though. He doesn't seem to be able to take the pressure, and having to play the deciding rubber when your ranked well above your opponent,  you've lost your first rubber, had a lot of criticism and nver won a live rubber in DC is definitely pressure. I do actually think that if he plays he will win (and I'm not sure if Delgado would) but I think Delgado has done more this weekend to show he can cope with it and their past record in DC does not really seperate them.
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Re: Should Bogdanovic Play The Final Rubber If It is Live!?!? « Reply #11 on: July 23, 2006, 09:24 AM »
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Strange thing is, IS that i can pick quite a few british players who ui think could beat Ram, but they are not in the side, Baker/Auckland to name but two!!!!
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Re: Should Bogdanovic Play The Final Rubber If It is Live!?!? « Reply #12 on: July 23, 2006, 09:30 AM »
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His win was in a dead rubber though. He doesn't seem to be able to take the pressure, and having to play the deciding rubber when your ranked well above your opponent,  you've lost your first rubber, had a lot of criticism and nver won a live rubber in DC is definitely pressure. I do actually think that if he plays he will win (and I'm not sure if Delgado would) but I think Delgado has done more this weekend to show he can cope with it and their past record in DC does not really seperate them.

Delgado is yet to win a dead rubber.... If Alex fails, there is almost no chance that Delgado would have succeeded there. no


Strange thing is, IS that i can pick quite a few british players who ui think could beat Ram, but they are not in the side, Baker/Auckland to name but two!!!!

I really wonder what Bloomers is doing out of the squad. He has just won a round in Wimbledon, and reached a Challenger semis as a follow up and reached the top 200 for the first time. With his big serve he is a player quite suited to grass.
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Re: Should Bogdanovic Play The Final Rubber If It is Live!?!? « Reply #13 on: July 23, 2006, 10:32 AM »
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Is it? He has a win against Woodbridge by the way. He lost his match against Hewitt and lost to Okun twice. Maybe he does not rise to Okun at all? Bugbears do exist in tennis. Federer can't play against Nadal but Nadal is inferior to him.

A Bog deserves at least five more chances before he is dropped. And I'm pretty sure that after five more chances, you wont feel like dropping him, just like Andy showed during Wimbly that he is far from down and out!

1. Er... Wimbledon? Federer can't beat Nadal on clay, because Nadal is the better player.
2. Seriously Arka, had you watched the Okun match you wouldn't want Boggo to play. Yes, giving him a chance to play is probably fair - but would you risk it after his performance on Friday?
3. Boggo and Andy are on entirely different levels.
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Re: Should Bogdanovic Play The Final Rubber If It is Live!?!? « Reply #14 on: July 23, 2006, 11:14 AM »
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1. Er... Wimbledon? Federer can't beat Nadal on clay, because Nadal is the better player.

I didn't mean that Nadal has a 100% record against Fed. He defeated Nadal on grass because Nadal is pretty bad on grass. Nadal has a good record against Fed on hardcourts and Federer won three of the last four GS tournaments on that surface.


2. Seriously Arka, had you watched the Okun match you wouldn't want Boggo to play. Yes, giving him a chance to play is probably fair - but would you risk it after his performance on Friday?

Would you risk Delgado or Mackin? Risks look really stupid when they don't pay off.

3. Boggo and Andy are on entirely different levels.

As are Nadal and Okun.
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