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Re: The current state of British tennis « Reply #180 on: June 25, 2010, 10:07 PM »
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Oh good. This means she can now devote 8 hours+ to tennis + 1 hour for fitness training !

I wonder how much tennis per day Andy was playing at Barcelona  (I also recall that Andy had to stop playing for >1 year between 16 to 18 due to the bipartite condition).
I think it was 6 months Andy was out.
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Re: The current state of British tennis « Reply #181 on: June 25, 2010, 10:50 PM »
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Thanks Allan.
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Re: The current state of British tennis « Reply #182 on: June 26, 2010, 01:08 AM »
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Oh good. This means she can now devote 8 hours+ to tennis + 1 hour for fitness training !

I wonder how much tennis per day Andy was playing at Barcelona  (I also recall that Andy had to stop playing for >1 year between 16 to 18 due to the bipartite condition).
Yes, it was six months.  Andy says he was forced to stop because things had got to the point where he could hardly walk never mind play tennis.

Promotional video for the Spanish academy Andy went to - and if you watch carefully you'll see a very youthful Nadal.  From what I recall though is that Andy was a little less than enthusiastic about the gym, and was nicknamed "lazy English"!

http://www.sanchez-casal.com/
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Re: The current state of British tennis « Reply #183 on: June 26, 2010, 05:28 PM »
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Thanks Aileen.
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Re: The current state of British tennis « Reply #184 on: June 28, 2010, 01:10 AM »
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BBC Radio 5 live (27 June) - "In-depth - Draper bullish about LTA"  (I - seriously - misread this at first as "bullsh*t")

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tennis/8765964.stm

Draper tells Sportsweek's Garry Richardson that he is not considering his position and
is positive about the growth of British tennis despite a disappointing first week at Wimbledon.**

[20 min audio]
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Re: The current state of British tennis « Reply #185 on: June 28, 2010, 01:11 AM »
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Well he's got a point. 15 women is the top 500 is good progress. Admittedly the men's game is lagging behind but I don't think he's hiding that.
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Re: The current state of British tennis « Reply #186 on: June 28, 2010, 01:39 AM »
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Well he's got a point. 15 women is the top 500 is good progress. Admittedly the men's game is lagging behind but I don't think he's hiding that.
**The whole interview is worth listening to as Richardson quizes Draper about such matters as the lack of an independent investigation into the state of British tennis, the Davis Cup and  John Lloyd's resignation, failure to meet targets, what does Draper consider to be his achievements and failures over past 4 years, and the question of introducing think-tanks which include people like Henman and Petchey.
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Re: The current state of British tennis « Reply #187 on: June 29, 2010, 12:33 AM »
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BBC Radio 5 live (27 June) - "In-depth - Draper bullish about LTA"  (I - seriously - misread this at first as "bullsh*t")

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tennis/8765964.stm

Draper tells Sportsweek's Garry Richardson that he is not considering his position and
is positive about the growth of British tennis despite a disappointing first week at Wimbledon.**

[20 min audio]


Very interesting. Agree so hard about the doubles though.

I couldn't really care if Inglot and Eaton beat someone. Ie the country goes crazy just when we win a junior slam. Within in the media, there was probably a small puff of enjoyment when Murray and Jankovic won the mixed.

3 singles in the top 100 by the end of the year is pretty un-aspirational imo.
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Re: The current state of British tennis « Reply #188 on: June 29, 2010, 01:51 AM »
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I was hunting up something about Britain's latest whiz-kid, Alexander Ward (tipped 2 years ago as "the future Andy Murray"), and came across this comment I found posted on Sky Sports just after the Lithuania farce.  Maybe Draper & Co should read it and inwardly digest:

James Dee says...
I am a tennis coach working in one of the top tennis academies in Barcelona.
The Spanish system creates a different style of player than the English due to the emphasis placed on fitness and the fact that they train on clay, a much slower surface which forces a player to build points rather than looking for the big shot. This is a big difference not because one is better than the other but because the Spanish style is a much easier form of tennis to learn. Less ´feel´and talent is needed, meaning that more people are able to play tennis to a high level.

However, the main difference between the two countries is the infastructure at county level. In Spain each county or ´communidad´has its own academy where they take the best players of the region and train them 6 hours a day from the age of 13. This means that a very large number of children are given the adequate amount of training needed to reach the top of the game.

In England there are very few players who are privileged enough to train professionally. In Surrey, who I trained with for a time, county training consisted of 2, 2-hour squads a week! Grass roots tennis is also a major problem. In England parents who want their son to play tennis must first enroll him in a club and then pay up to 30 pounds for an hour lesson. Tennis is a middle class sport in England and even they find it difficult. In Spain almost every tennis club runs a afterschool program where players can play 2 hours a day for less 30 euros p/w. Almost every top Spanish player started this way and almost every top Spanish player came through their county or private academies.

Alex Ward has been training in Spain for a long time, as has James Ward (no relation), and Andy Murray spent his most formative years here in Barcelona. Our best players should not feel that they have to move to Spain in order to have a chance, but they do, and we must change.


James Ward is now being coached by Greg Rusedski, and still has to make an impact on the game, but Alex Ward (current ranking #532) does seem to have some genuine potential, his latest claim to fame being to beat Taylor Dent at Nottingham, after what seems to be the obligatory British wobble:

Fresh from seeing off Ryler Deheart a day earlier, Ward saw off another American in Dent 7-5 0-6 7-6 (10/8) to earn himself a spot in the quarter-finals ..."I've never played a match quite like that," the 20-year-old Ward told the LTA website.  I thought I played well throughout the match but I had a bit of a blip in the second set but I'm glad to get through it.  I had quite a few match points in the tie break but I just kept believing in myself and thinking positive thoughts."

Just keep the self-belief and positivity going, Alex ...

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Re: The current state of British tennis « Reply #189 on: August 26, 2010, 04:04 AM »
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From the BBC Sport website -

British tennis battles against perceptions

..... The process of selecting players for LTA  funding starts at a very young age. The AEGON FutureStars programme is made up of a group of roughly 400 promising players who range from the age of eight to 23.

Those that show the most potential are promoted to Team AEGON , a group of more than 40 players aged from 13 to 27 that are provided with full training support at either the NTC or a training performance centre of the player's choice, as well as receiving substantial funds towards travel and a range of sport science support.

After 18 months in his post as women's junior tennis manager, Iain Bates strongly disagrees with the suggestion that British juniors have too much handed to them on a plate.

"The perception is one that exists and that we're not going to change apart from with hard work, good success and the kids putting their minds to the training," Bates told BBC Sport.

"If the media spotlight was present 52 weeks a year it would be a lot easier for everybody to understand the quality of these players, how hard they work, the level of success that they have. It's a lifestyle sacrifice. They give every minute of every day they have towards their tennis.

"The reality is we're a big federation and we do have resources but I think our job is to make sure those resources are allocated to the right players and to the players that have a chance to go on and potentially make the top 100.".....

 
Full article - http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tennis/8901242.stm
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Re: The current state of British tennis « Reply #190 on: August 26, 2010, 04:51 PM »
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Jonathan O'mara. One to watch.

Non-LTA trained, but LTA funded.
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Re: The current state of British tennis « Reply #191 on: August 26, 2010, 04:55 PM »
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His dad posted on here at one point.
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Re: The current state of British tennis « Reply #192 on: August 26, 2010, 05:04 PM »
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His dad posted on here at one point.

Indeed he did. He won the british U16 nationals last week and has a wildcard to junior wimbly next year.

Of course, he's only 15, so not expected to win much, but if he makes a round or two, watch out for the future.

His mum is my boss btw lol

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Re: The current state of British tennis « Reply #193 on: August 26, 2010, 05:08 PM »
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His mum is my boss btw lol
Nice. lol
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Re: The current state of British tennis « Reply #194 on: August 31, 2010, 12:00 AM »
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