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Re: Advent! « Reply #15 on: December 03, 2009, 07:06 PM »
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I enjoy 1 advent calendar a day.

So you diet in January then Think Very Happy

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Re: Advent! « Reply #16 on: December 03, 2009, 07:18 PM »
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I think this is one of my favourite OT descriptions of Jesus and his mission on earth

Isaiah 53
 1 Who has believed our message
       and to whom has the arm of the LORD been revealed?

 2 He grew up before him like a tender shoot,
       and like a root out of dry ground.
       He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him,
       nothing in his appearance that we should desire him.

 3 He was despised and rejected by men,
       a man of sorrows, and familiar with suffering.
       Like one from whom men hide their faces
       he was despised, and we esteemed him not.

 4 Surely he took up our infirmities
       and carried our sorrows,
       yet we considered him stricken by God,
       smitten by him, and afflicted.

 5 But he was pierced for our transgressions,
       he was crushed for our iniquities;
       the punishment that brought us peace was upon him,
       and by his wounds we are healed.

 6 We all, like sheep, have gone astray,
       each of us has turned to his own way;
       and the LORD has laid on him
       the iniquity of us all.
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Re: Advent! « Reply #17 on: December 04, 2009, 11:00 PM »
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Micah 5:2-5 (New International Version)

 2 "But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah,
       though you are small among the clans [a] of Judah,
       out of you will come for me
       one who will be ruler over Israel,
       whose origins are from of old,
       from ancient times. [c] "

 3 Therefore Israel will be abandoned
       until the time when she who is in labor gives birth
       and the rest of his brothers return
       to join the Israelites.

 4 He will stand and shepherd his flock
       in the strength of the LORD,
       in the majesty of the name of the LORD his God.
       And they will live securely, for then his greatness
       will reach to the ends of the earth.

 5 And he will be their peace
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Re: Advent! « Reply #18 on: December 05, 2009, 03:02 PM »
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^ How does it all make any sense?  confused
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Re: Advent! « Reply #19 on: December 05, 2009, 07:08 PM »
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^ How does it all make any sense?  confused

In what way? In how it all relates to Jesus? I'll try and answer if you give me a question Very Happy
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Re: Advent! « Reply #20 on: December 05, 2009, 07:22 PM »
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In what way? In how it all relates to Jesus? I'll try and answer if you give me a question Very Happy
I guess you'd have to know the background for it to mean something.  It's awfully wordy, though, and hard to follow.  Frown
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Re: Advent! « Reply #21 on: December 05, 2009, 07:45 PM »
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Well in some ways this is the background. It can be wordy which is why I also look at various commentaries on passages at times Very Happy

Day 1 - Isaiah 9:1-7 The places named there are where Jesus was born and grew up...but this was written hundreds of years before he was born. Isaiah was the prophet to Israel from around 740-681 BC
Throughout the OT God promises the people of Israel that he will send a 'light' and a messiah, all these verses describe what he will be like and give clues about him.
Day 2- Isaiah 11:1-10 Again it tells of how Jesus will bring an end to war and injustice (in the fullness of time) Importantly it tells us that he will come from the descendants of Jesse who was the father of King David (of David and Goliath fame) God promised David that from him would come a great king, the ultimate king of Israel (or of God's people)
Day 3 -Isaiah 53:1-6 We are told here that the messiah would be scorned by men, that the people that should have recognised him would reject him (the Jews) and that he wouldn't be the physically appealing man that the Jews expected to come as a warrior to free them from the nations that had conquered them
It says that he will suffer and take our punishment so that we can have peace.
Day 4- Micah 5:2-5 (he was a prophet 742-687 BC)
Micah was given a warning to God's people that judgement was coming and that they needed to repent. However, these verses tell us more detail about the coming Messiah (Jesus) it says that in Bethlehem the saviour will be born, which is where Jesus was born, from the descendants of Jesse, from the line of David.

Hope that simplifies it a bit?
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Re: Advent! « Reply #22 on: December 05, 2009, 07:52 PM »
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Todays passage is Zechariah 9:9-13 (Zechariah was a prophet from 520 BC)
He writes to give hope to God's people by revealing his plan for delieverance through the future messiah.

Zechariah 9:9-13 (New International Version)

The Coming of Zion's King
 9 Rejoice greatly, O Daughter of Zion!
       Shout, Daughter of Jerusalem!
       See, your king comes to you,
       righteous and having salvation,
       gentle and riding on a donkey,
       on a colt, the foal of a donkey.
 
10 I will take away the chariots from Ephraim
       and the war-horses from Jerusalem,
       and the battle bow will be broken.
       He will proclaim peace to the nations.
       His rule will extend from sea to sea
       and from the River (Euphrates) to the ends of the earth.

 11 As for you, because of the blood of my covenant with you,
       I will free your prisoners from the waterless pit.

 12 Return to your fortress, O prisoners of hope;
       even now I announce that I will restore twice as much to you.

 13 I will bend Judah as I bend my bow
       and fill it with Ephraim.
       I will rouse your sons, O Zion,
       against your sons, O Greece,
       and make you like a warrior's sword.

This foretells Jesus as king over all of God's people. Also if you read the accounts of the week leading up to Easter then you see that Jesus rode into Jerusalem on a young donkey, humble and not on a horse or camel or in a grand way.
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Re: Advent! « Reply #23 on: December 05, 2009, 07:56 PM »
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^ It does, thank you.

I have two Bibles (never read) - both given to me 20 years ago by a friend who was a devout Christian, like yourself.  You remind me of her loads....  Smile 
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Re: Advent! « Reply #24 on: December 05, 2009, 07:59 PM »
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^ It does, thank you.

I have two Bibles (never read) - both given to me 20 years ago by a friend who was a devout Christian, like yourself.  You remind me of her loads....  Smile 

I remember a lot of Gideon bibles in halls being used to hold windows open:)
The problem is that is trying not to water down or change the message and meaning of the bible while trying to explain what was happening in a way that people understand.
I sometimes forget that so many of the words and phrases I use almost everyday are like another language to a lot of people now Smile

I will try and summarise and explain what I post for the rest of advent Very Happy
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Re: Advent! « Reply #25 on: December 06, 2009, 08:19 PM »
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Galatians 4:4-7 (New International Version)
4But when the time had fully come, God sent his Son, born of a woman, born under law, 5to redeem those under law, that we might receive the full rights of sons. 6Because you are sons, God sent the Spirit of his Son into our hearts, the Spirit who calls out, "Abba, Father." 7So you are no longer a slave, but a son; and since you are a son, God has made you also an heir.

The Jews had been waiting and praying for the Messiah for centuries but God had the perfect time planned and answered their prayers by sending Jesus. Sometimes we need patience and trust to know that God ansers all prayers not not always when we would like him to Smile
Jesus was born of woman, he was human. He was also born a Jew and was therefore under the law given by God to Moses, but he was perfect and so upheld the Law perfectly. He was fully human and yet never sinned.
We are allowed to call God father, this means we have equal rights to God's inheritance. We can claim full identity as children of God and enjoy our inheritance as brothers and sisters of Christ in God's kingdom.
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Re: Advent! « Reply #26 on: December 06, 2009, 08:59 PM »
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As a Christian, I would like to say think you to Hazel for posting these. Smile

God Bless you all during this Christmas season.
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Re: Advent! « Reply #27 on: December 06, 2009, 09:51 PM »
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As much as I'm not particularly religious, I do like the idea of there being a deeper meaning behind all the Commercialism that is Christmas, these days.  It's kind of soothing.  Smile
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Re: Advent! « Reply #28 on: December 06, 2009, 11:26 PM »
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As a Christian, I would like to say think you to Hazel for posting these. Smile

God Bless you all during this Christmas season.

Your welcome Very Happy

As much as I'm not particularly religious, I do like the idea of there being a deeper meaning behind all the Commercialism that is Christmas, these days.  It's kind of soothing.  Smile

I'm sure a church near you would have a carol service that you could go to Very Happy Very soothing and deeper meaning yes COuld recommend plenty in the city! (Pushing it but I might as well try Smile )
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Re: Advent! « Reply #29 on: December 06, 2009, 11:32 PM »
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Your welcome Very Happy

I'm sure a church near you would have a carol service that you could go to Very Happy Very soothing and deeper meaning yes COuld recommend plenty in the city! (Pushing it but I might as well try Smile )
You don't have to push it, Hazel.  Smile  I guess I'm Agnostic, tbh.  I don't believe implicitly in any 'God' but I've an open mind.  My mum goes to Church, and I've been brought up with a certain 'faith'.  I just sit on the fence.  I have splinters in my butt!  lol 
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