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Benefits and financial support

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Three million claimants says it ain't that hard.
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And if they really, really wanted to get to work - to struggle into work, even at physical cost to themselves, because that's what people had to do before the advent of incapacity and similar benefits - they would do.

I suspect your response will be along the lines of 'why should they have to?', since you're a Labour voter.

You're quite the hard man, aren't you? Tough as old boots. If you were me, you'd probably sprint to work.

Idiot.
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Three million claimants says it ain't that hard.

And what evidence do you have that the majority are not genuine cases?
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Please don't make me laugh. The MAJORITY of THREE MILLION people are completely unable to do any kind of work? You're taking the piss.

That bloke three doors down from you - the one with the bad back who's just ordered the plasma TV - he ain't genuine. Believe me.
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Please don't make me laugh. The MAJORITY of THREE MILLION people are completely unable to do any kind of work? You're taking the piss.

That bloke three doors down from you - the one with the bad back who's just ordered the plasma TV - he ain't genuine. Believe me.

Once again, it is not just about sitting there and lifting a telephone. It's about getting there in the first place.

Many people are unemployable due to the fact that they simply could not say with any degree of certainty whether they would be in day after day. Seriously, what disabling condition do you have that makes you an authority on what people can and cannot do under such circumstances?
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It isn't solely about whether they can do the job. It's about reliability and actually being able to make it into work everyday.


Work from home.  Data entry comes to mind.  It's obvious that you can type as you have 17,254 posts to your credit, so you could put your typing skill to good use.
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Work from home.  Data entry comes to mind.  It's obvious that you can type as you have 17,254 posts to your credit, so you could put your typing skill to good use.
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Over how many years? During which time my arthritis has gotten worse. For every hour I spend at the keyboard, I rest my hands for an hour afterwards.

Don't presume to know the nature of my condition.
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And by the way, the point of me getting my Masters is so that I can work from home. I need to be able to pick and choose my jobs.
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Over how many years? During which time my arthritis has gotten worse. For every hour I spend at the keyboard, I rest my hands for an hour afterwards.

Don't presume to know the nature of my condition.

Stay off Murraysworld and MTF and devote that time to data entry and earning some money.  That's obviously the answer.  Work before play and all that ...
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If people want to work, they'll find a way of getting there. These people with 'bad backs' - they could get to work.  Stop siding with the deadbeats.

How many people do you suppose get incapacity or equivalent benefits in, say, Germany? If you can safely assume that similar proportions of people will have debilitating illnesses in Germany and they have a slghtly larger population, it's safe to say they should have four million or so on the sick. But they don't.

And now I must end this pointless debate, as I have to do some work. More fool me.
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And by the way, the point of me getting my Masters is so that I can work from home. I need to be able to pick and choose my jobs.

Sounds promising.  So, we can look forward to you joining the ranks of the tax payers in the not too distant future.
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Stay off Murraysworld and MTF and devote that time to data entry and earning some money.  That's obviously the answer.  Work before play and all that ...

That isn't how it works. No one is going to employ me to work 4 hours a day from home. Do you think they just hand out jobs like that on every street corner? Get a clue.

You do not know me, my circumstances, or the nature of my condition. You are simply not qualified to comment.
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Don't want to get involved in the primary argument but just a brief comment, Daisy I would have thought finding a job that allows you to work from home would be difficult?
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Sounds promising.  So, we can look forward to you joining the ranks of the tax payers in the not too distant future.

I've had arthritis for 7 years. Only this year, when it became intolerable, did I make any sort of claim.

I worked straight out of high school, right up until I got arthritis.
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Don't want to get involved in the primary argument but just a brief comment, Daisy I would have thought finding a job that allows you to work from home would be difficult?

Incredibly difficult even for someone who can dedicate the time to it and not have to take regular, extended breaks. I have narrowing of the joints in my hands. Expecting me to take up data entry is absurd.
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