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Benefits and financial support « on: October 05, 2010, 08:20 AM »
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David Cameron facing criticism over child benefit cuts

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-11473609


What utter tosh!  So 2 people can earn just under £88k per annum between them and receive child benefit but 2 people with just 1 person working/earning say the minimum,  just over £44K per annum, can't.  Great way to work guys clap  Maybe they ought to stop paying child benefit to people who live here but their kids are in another European country.


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Re: Benefits and financial support « Reply #1 on: October 05, 2010, 10:44 AM »
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David Cameron facing criticism over child benefit cuts

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-11473609


What utter tosh!  So 2 people can earn just under £88k per annum between them and receive child benefit.

From my understanding, I thought this wouldn't be allowed? Any families with one parent earning over 44k/annum.
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Re: Benefits and financial support « Reply #2 on: October 05, 2010, 07:49 PM »
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Any families with 1 parent earning 44k/annum! Lucky them!!!!!!!!!!! they definitely don't need Child Benefit!
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Re: Benefits and financial support « Reply #3 on: October 05, 2010, 07:59 PM »
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I would tend to agree with that, tbh.

You'll never come up with something that pleases everyone. However, some policies are fairer than others.
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Re: Benefits and financial support « Reply #4 on: October 05, 2010, 08:01 PM »
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I would tend to agree with that, tbh.

You'll never come up with something that pleases everyone. However, some policies are fairer than others.

True , very true!!
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Re: Benefits and financial support « Reply #5 on: October 05, 2010, 08:18 PM »
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Agree also.
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Re: Benefits and financial support « Reply #6 on: October 05, 2010, 08:29 PM »
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This has probably been said.......but if you decide to have children wich is the vast majority of people with the means.......YOU are responsible for financing them.....NOT the tax payer.
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Re: Benefits and financial support « Reply #7 on: October 05, 2010, 08:31 PM »
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Well said that man! clap
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Re: Benefits and financial support « Reply #8 on: October 05, 2010, 11:22 PM »
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This has probably been said.......but if you decide to have children wich is the vast majority of people with the means.......YOU are responsible for financing them.....NOT the tax payer.

Those children will, in the future, be paying the state pension of those who have no children!
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Re: Benefits and financial support « Reply #9 on: October 06, 2010, 10:28 AM »
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My taxes contributed towards many things I didn't use and don't use now and well said Colin yes The tosh part is that weathly couples still benefit when a single partner is punished for earning a decent wage. How can that be fair? It would be something that I wouldn't have had to worry about as our combined income wouldn't have got anywhere near £40k.
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Re: Benefits and financial support « Reply #10 on: October 06, 2010, 10:34 AM »
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My taxes contributed towards many things I didn't use and don't use now and well said Colin yes The tosh part is that weathly couples still benefit when a single partner is punished for earning a decent wage. How can that be fair? It would be something that I wouldn't have had to worry about as our combined income wouldn't have got anywhere near £40k.
As far as taxes go, it's swings and roundabouts.  It's the same with the Council Tax.  I have to pay for services I would never use, but there we are.  It would be impossible to differentiate .
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Re: Benefits and financial support « Reply #11 on: October 06, 2010, 10:44 AM »
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I spent very little time at the docs or needing any kind of hospital treatment but still paid taxes/insurance. To me this smacks of an easy target.

And I did pay back the £10 in child benefit I was overpaid as we left the country  before the date I was paid up to.

What about the unpaid taxes they are not bothering to chase? Wasn't that a figure of £3bn or something? Should those people be allowed not to pay taxes when everyone else does?
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Re: Benefits and financial support « Reply #12 on: October 06, 2010, 12:03 PM »
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This has probably been said.......but if you decide to have children wich is the vast majority of people with the means.......YOU are responsible for financing them.....NOT the tax payer.
If you have ever noticed....it seems there is an inverse ratio on means to children. Generally from what I see, the more education, opportunity, means; the less children you have. Am I wrong? Those who can least afford them, have the most!! I "usually" am in agreement with replacement, but once you are beyond that, why should the government pay for the excessive abuse of the system?
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Re: Benefits and financial support « Reply #13 on: October 06, 2010, 12:46 PM »
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very well put!! Smile
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Re: Benefits and financial support « Reply #14 on: October 06, 2010, 03:18 PM »
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I spent very little time at the docs or needing any kind of hospital treatment but still paid taxes/insurance. To me this smacks of an easy target.

And I did pay back the £10 in child benefit I was overpaid as we left the country  before the date I was paid up to.

What about the unpaid taxes they are not bothering to chase? Wasn't that a figure of £3bn or something? Should those people be allowed not to pay taxes when everyone else does?
Were you chased up for this, or were you being honest?  A measly £10 whilst the fat cats get fatter!

If you have ever noticed....it seems there is an inverse ratio on means to children. Generally from what I see, the more education, opportunity, means; the less children you have. Am I wrong? Those who can least afford them, have the most!! I "usually" am in agreement with replacement, but once you are beyond that, why should the government pay for the excessive abuse of the system?
Exactly, Buhweet.

It makes me sick with rage when I see huge families, one recently with 10 kids, claiming every benefit under the sun and living in expensive properties for which they're getting full housing and council tax benefit.  And please don't get me started on the feckless unmarried teenage mums who have no intention of working!!  ranting

I suppose it could be argued that you can't tell people how many children they can have, but enough is enough!  They should make these teenage mums live at home with their parents, or in hostels, like they used to have to do before all these nice, easy benefits came along.  That'd make them think twice before getting pregnant.

Also I think familes should get child benefit for the 1st two children, then after that nothing.  That, too would focus minds, and on a more practical level it would help keep the population down.  Britain is bursting at the seams as it is.

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