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Re: Bible discussion thread « Reply #435 on: July 20, 2011, 07:32 PM »
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Re: Bible discussion thread « Reply #436 on: November 03, 2011, 06:48 PM »
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I just found this thread and am very thrilled that there is something like this on the forum.  I have very much enjoyed reading people's opinions, and most importantly the Scipture.  Isn't it neat that there are people who are our brothers and sisters in Christ along with being Murray fans?! Blessings to all of you and I look forward to future conversations Smile
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Re: Bible discussion thread « Reply #437 on: November 03, 2011, 09:17 PM »
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I just found this thread and am very thrilled that there is something like this on the forum.  I have very much enjoyed reading people's opinions, and most importantly the Scipture.  Isn't it neat that there are people who are our brothers and sisters in Christ along with being Murray fans?! Blessings to all of you and I look forward to future conversations Smile
HI Holly I am afaid we are few and far between.It is nice to know however that there is another sister out there. Dianne.
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Re: Bible discussion thread « Reply #438 on: November 14, 2011, 07:13 PM »
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I just found this thread and am very thrilled that there is something like this on the forum.  I have very much enjoyed reading people's opinions, and most importantly the Scipture.  Isn't it neat that there are people who are our brothers and sisters in Christ along with being Murray fans?! Blessings to all of you and I look forward to future conversations Smile

Hey wave Nice to have a positive response Smile

Someone quoted this the other week to me and it really applies to where I am just now, really need to keep reminding myself of the second half of the passage.

Lamentations 3:17-26

New International Version (NIV)

 

17 I have been deprived of peace;
   I have forgotten what prosperity is.
18 So I say, “My splendor is gone
   and all that I had hoped from the LORD.”

 19 I remember my affliction and my wandering,
   the bitterness and the gall.
20 I well remember them,
   and my soul is downcast within me.
21 Yet this I call to mind
   and therefore I have hope:

 22 Because of the LORD’s great love we are not consumed,
   for his compassions never fail.
23 They are new every morning;
   great is your faithfulness.
24 I say to myself, “The LORD is my portion;
   therefore I will wait for him.”

 25 The LORD is good to those whose hope is in him,
   to the one who seeks him;
26 it is good to wait quietly
   for the salvation of the LORD.
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Re: Bible discussion thread « Reply #439 on: December 13, 2011, 06:19 PM »
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Hey wave Nice to have a positive response Smile

Someone quoted this the other week to me and it really applies to where I am just now, really need to keep reminding myself of the second half of the passage.

Lamentations 3:17-26

New International Version (NIV)

 

17 I have been deprived of peace;
   I have forgotten what prosperity is.
18 So I say, “My splendor is gone
   and all that I had hoped from the LORD.”

 19 I remember my affliction and my wandering,
   the bitterness and the gall.
20 I well remember them,
   and my soul is downcast within me.
21 Yet this I call to mind
   and therefore I have hope:

 22 Because of the LORD’s great love we are not consumed,
   for his compassions never fail.
23 They are new every morning;
   great is your faithfulness.
24 I say to myself, “The LORD is my portion;
   therefore I will wait for him.”

 25 The LORD is good to those whose hope is in him,
   to the one who seeks him;
26 it is good to wait quietly
   for the salvation of the LORD.


I love those verses.  Its such a good reminder to have.  I need that everyday, especially recently.  Thanks for sharing that!  “The LORD is my portion; therefore I will wait for him.” 

Isaiah 41:10 Fear thou not; for I am with thee: be not dismayed; for I am thy God: I will strengthen thee; yea, I will help thee; yea, I will uphold thee with the right hand of my righteousness.
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Re: Bible discussion thread « Reply #440 on: March 05, 2012, 03:37 PM »
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I actually came on to post on this thread earlier and got distracted by the religious discussions thread.

Church yesterday evening was amazing and the sermon was brilliant. It was dealing with women in the Church and was done so well. The preacher dealt with the problems caused by misinterpretation of various verses from the New Testament and how even well meaning Christians who have been trying to stay true to the scriptures have managed to misinterpret. The focus was on 1 Corinthians 11:2-16 and really went into the context into which Paul was speaking as well as discussing the word choices and their translation from the Greek.
The sermon is available to download http://www.pandgchurch.org.uk/Groups/102057/St_Pauls_and/On_Sundays/Sermons_Online/Sermons_Online.aspx and I'd recommend it, really helpful at explaining the various views taken by people over this issue and also the scriptural reality of what Paul was saying. Even if you don't agree with Dave's standpoint, that doesn't matter, I'm somewhere between the 2 extreme views that he lays out.
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Re: Bible discussion thread « Reply #441 on: April 04, 2012, 07:15 PM »
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The Last Supper

 7 Then came the day of Unleavened Bread on which the Passover lamb had to be sacrificed. 8 Jesus sent Peter and John, saying, “Go and make preparations for us to eat the Passover.”
 9 “Where do you want us to prepare for it?” they asked.

 10 He replied, “As you enter the city, a man carrying a jar of water will meet you. Follow him to the house that he enters, 11 and say to the owner of the house, ‘The Teacher asks: Where is the guest room, where I may eat the Passover with my disciples?’ 12 He will show you a large room upstairs, all furnished. Make preparations there.”

 13 They left and found things just as Jesus had told them. So they prepared the Passover.

 14 When the hour came, Jesus and his apostles reclined at the table. 15 And he said to them, “I have eagerly desired to eat this Passover with you before I suffer. 16 For I tell you, I will not eat it again until it finds fulfillment in the kingdom of God.”

 17 After taking the cup, he gave thanks and said, “Take this and divide it among you. 18 For I tell you I will not drink again from the fruit of the vine until the kingdom of God comes.”

 19 And he took bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to them, saying, “This is my body given for you; do this in remembrance of me.”

 20 In the same way, after the supper he took the cup, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in my blood, which is poured out for you.[a] 21 But the hand of him who is going to betray me is with mine on the table. 22 The Son of Man will go as it has been decreed. But woe to that man who betrays him!” 23 They began to question among themselves which of them it might be who would do this.

 24 A dispute also arose among them as to which of them was considered to be greatest. 25 Jesus said to them, “The kings of the Gentiles lord it over them; and those who exercise authority over them call themselves Benefactors. 26 But you are not to be like that. Instead, the greatest among you should be like the youngest, and the one who rules like the one who serves. 27 For who is greater, the one who is at the table or the one who serves? Is it not the one who is at the table? But I am among you as one who serves. 28 You are those who have stood by me in my trials. 29 And I confer on you a kingdom, just as my Father conferred one on me, 30 so that you may eat and drink at my table in my kingdom and sit on thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

   31 “Simon, Simon, Satan has asked to sift all of you as wheat. 32 But I have prayed for you, Simon, that your faith may not fail. And when you have turned back, strengthen your brothers.”

 33 But he replied, “Lord, I am ready to go with you to prison and to death.”

 34 Jesus answered, “I tell you, Peter, before the rooster crows today, you will deny three times that you know me.”

 35 Then Jesus asked them, “When I sent you without purse, bag or sandals, did you lack anything?”

   “Nothing,” they answered.

 36 He said to them, “But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one. 37 It is written: ‘And he was numbered with the transgressors’; and I tell you that this must be fulfilled in me. Yes, what is written about me is reaching its fulfillment.”

 38 The disciples said, “See, Lord, here are two swords.”

   “That’s enough!” he replied.
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Re: Bible discussion thread « Reply #442 on: April 07, 2012, 12:32 AM »
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I actually came on to post on this thread earlier and got distracted by the religious discussions thread.

Church yesterday evening was amazing and the sermon was brilliant. It was dealing with women in the Church and was done so well. The preacher dealt with the problems caused by misinterpretation of various verses from the New Testament and how even well meaning Christians who have been trying to stay true to the scriptures have managed to misinterpret. The focus was on 1 Corinthians 11:2-16 and really went into the context into which Paul was speaking as well as discussing the word choices and their translation from the Greek.
The sermon is available to download http://www.pandgchurch.org.uk/Groups/102057/St_Pauls_and/On_Sundays/Sermons_Online/Sermons_Online.aspx and I'd recommend it, really helpful at explaining the various views taken by people over this issue and also the scriptural reality of what Paul was saying. Even if you don't agree with Dave's standpoint, that doesn't matter, I'm somewhere between the 2 extreme views that he lays out.
Sorry to jump back a bit here, Hazel.  Didn't listen to the sermon (a step too far, that! Smile), but having checked out the text in question online, I take it this is basically the old contentious issue as to whether or not women should worship in Church with their heads uncovered?  I can't speak for any other denomination but certainly in the Church of Scotland, until about 40 years ago, it was unthinkable for a woman to attend church without wearing a hat - not from any fashion point of view, but because it was considered to be disrespectful to worship God bare-headed.  I think the idea was finally kicked out after much deliberation by the General Assembly - something I did not agree with.    

Also it's interesting that, according to the same text I looked at, it says that having long hair is a woman's glory, but men shouldn't have long hair because it is a disgrace to them.  Now that does seem a little odd because Jesus is always depicted as having long hair.

I'm not up for an argument here, btw - just some random thinking on my part. hug
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Re: Bible discussion thread « Reply #443 on: April 08, 2012, 03:13 PM »
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Sorry to jump back a bit here, Hazel.  Didn't listen to the sermon (a step too far, that! Smile), but having checked out the text in question online, I take it this is basically the old contentious issue as to whether or not women should worship in Church with their heads uncovered?  I can't speak for any other denomination but certainly in the Church of Scotland, until about 40 years ago, it was unthinkable for a woman to attend church without wearing a hat - not from any fashion point of view, but because it was considered to be disrespectful to worship God bare-headed.  I think the idea was finally kicked out after much deliberation by the General Assembly - something I did not agree with.   

Also it's interesting that, according to the same text I looked at, it says that having long hair is a woman's glory, but men shouldn't have long hair because it is a disgrace to them.  Now that does seem a little odd because Jesus is always depicted as having long hair.

I'm not up for an argument here, btw - just some random thinking on my part. hug

No wasn't really about women with heads uncovered- though did briefly say that that was for cultural rather than religious reasons, as women with loose uncovered hair in the culture were quite often prostitutes and so women worshipping with hair uncovered gave the wrong impression as to what the followers of Jesus believed in.

Happy Easter everyone! He is Risen! Hallelujah! yay
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Re: Bible discussion thread « Reply #444 on: April 08, 2012, 10:58 PM »
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No wasn't really about women with heads uncovered- though did briefly say that that was for cultural rather than religious reasons, as women with loose uncovered hair in the culture were quite often prostitutes and so women worshipping with hair uncovered gave the wrong impression as to what the followers of Jesus believed in.
Thanks for clarification.  The Biblical texts I looked at weren't at all clear in this respect.
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Re: Bible discussion thread « Reply #445 on: April 08, 2012, 11:01 PM »
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Thank God for Jesus and easter eggs . Little tongue man
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Re: Bible discussion thread « Reply #446 on: April 09, 2012, 02:50 AM »
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Thanks for clarification.  The Biblical texts I looked at weren't at all clear in this respect.

That's why I found this sermon really useful, it cut through a lot of the misconceptions and explained the cultural reasons behind what Paul was saying and not just going for 'Paul didn't like women' 'all women should cover their heads in church' view.
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Re: Bible discussion thread « Reply #449 on: February 14, 2013, 07:47 PM »
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Genesis 19:8

“Look, I have two daughters, virgins both of them. Let me bring them out to you and you could do what you like with them. But do nothing to these men because they have come under the shelter of my roof.”
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