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Question: Can we trust Russia? (read below before voteing)
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Can We Trust Russia? « on: February 10, 2007, 02:25 PM »
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 Can we trust Russia? There positions are often hostile and communist breezes can still be found through out the country. Like when Russian President Putin banned the Free Press from bashing him for a period of time. Or many Anti-Putin Russians have been found dead. Including the former Soviet Spy who died in London. The Soviet Union may of broke apart on 25 December 1991...but I dont think we can still trust this nation with more Nuclear weapons than America, Britian, and France put together.

      Just read more of what I am saying below...Putin trying to put petrol on fire with American.

Putin attacks 'very dangerous' US
 
Mr Putin said the US overstepped its borders in every way
Russian President Vladimir Putin has attacked the United States for what he said was its "almost uncontained" use of force around the world.
America's "very dangerous" approach to global relations was fuelling a nuclear arms race, he told a security summit.

Correspondents say the strident speech may signal a more assertive Russia.

Earlier German chancellor Angela Merkel told the delegates in Munich that the international community was determined to stop Iran getting nuclear weapons.

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makes me think he wants Iran to have nukes.
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Re: Can We Trust Russia? « Reply #1 on: February 10, 2007, 03:01 PM »
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From the blurb you just posted, I think he's spot on about America's gung-ho approach to foreign policy.
However, the levels of authoritarian tendencies in Russia do worry me...
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Re: Can We Trust Russia? « Reply #2 on: February 10, 2007, 03:04 PM »
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ya..well saying that out loud about a supposed friend is not the best thing to do. He is looking to start something
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Re: Can We Trust Russia? « Reply #3 on: February 10, 2007, 04:32 PM »
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Well it's what everyone is thinking. The only reason that its a bad idea is that it presents the supposed Western allies as fractured and disunited.
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Re: Can We Trust Russia? « Reply #4 on: February 10, 2007, 04:38 PM »
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I would say Russia is not the best nation to call America that. (I agree lots also call America it) Considering Russia in Chechnya and there increasing influence on Ukraine and Eastern Europe. (all the Oil and heat bullying)
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Re: Can We Trust Russia? « Reply #5 on: February 10, 2007, 08:24 PM »
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1/ Do I trust Russia with Nuclear Weapons?

Yes.

If the Former Soviet Union did not use nuclear weapons when faced with defeat in its war in Afghanistan against the US backed / trained / financed Muslim fundamentalists (Taliban) I do not believe it would be more likely to use then now.

2/ Do I trust Russia on other issues?

No

After the break up of the former Soviet Union, Russia has emerged as a global player once more, not through use of weapons of mass destruction but by political pressure backed up by flexing its muscles with withdrawal of energy / gas supplies last winter to western Europe pipelines (as you stated). It also took over control of Oil and Gas companies on a flimsy pretence of fines for environmental damage to areas the pipelines ran through.

3/ Do I agree with Presidents Putin’s comments on the USA.

Yes, he hit the nail square on the head.

4/ Do I think Putin wants Iran to have nuclear weapons?

No

If Putin wanted Iran to have nuclear weapons why would he have voted for sanctions against Iran in United Nations Security Council resolution 1737 following its refusal to suspend its uranium enrichment programme.

I can’t follow the logic in this one, he (Putin) is suppressing Muslims in Chechnya and wants see Iran obtain nuclear weapons, Iran is a hard-line Muslim state and it would not be outwith the realms of possibility that Iran would then provide Chechnya with a means to defend itself from its oppressors (i.e. nuclear weapons).
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Re: Can We Trust Russia? « Reply #6 on: February 10, 2007, 08:29 PM »
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1/ Do I trust Russia with Nuclear Weapons?

Yes.

If the Former Soviet Union did not use nuclear weapons when faced with defeat in its war in Afghanistan against the US backed / trained / financed Muslim fundamentalists (Taliban) I do not believe it would be more likely to use then now.

2/ Do I trust Russia on other issues?

No

After the break up of the former Soviet Union, Russia has emerged as a global player once more, not through use of weapons of mass destruction but by political pressure backed up by flexing its muscles with withdrawal of energy / gas supplies last winter to western Europe pipelines (as you stated). It also took over control of Oil and Gas companies on a flimsy pretence of fines for environmental damage to areas the pipelines ran through.

3/ Do I agree with Presidents Putin’s comments on the USA.

Yes, he hit the nail square on the head.

4/ Do I think Putin wants Iran to have nuclear weapons?

No

If Putin wanted Iran to have nuclear weapons why would he have voted for sanctions against Iran in United Nations Security Council resolution 1737 following its refusal to suspend its uranium enrichment programme.

I can’t follow the logic in this one, he (Putin) is suppressing Muslims in Chechnya and wants see Iran obtain nuclear weapons, Iran is a hard-line Muslim state and it would not be outwith the realms of possibility that Iran would then provide Chechnya with a means to defend itself from its oppressors (i.e. nuclear weapons).


I agree with you on...almost everything there. I am not too sure about trusting them with nukes. IF we ever come to a nuclear war I woulden trust who Russia would side with.
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Re: Can We Trust Russia? « Reply #7 on: February 10, 2007, 08:30 PM »
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From the blurb you just posted, I think he's spot on about America's gung-ho approach to foreign policy.
However, the levels of authoritarian tendencies in Russia do worry me...
I also agree with this view from reading the first post here.

But Russia is most definitely no angel.
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Re: Can We Trust Russia? « Reply #8 on: February 10, 2007, 08:43 PM »
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I agree with you on...almost everything there. I am not too sure about trusting them with nukes. IF we ever come to a nuclear war I woulden trust who Russia would side with.

And you trust our Government with them?

It has been well documented that we put nuclear weapons on the Ascension Islands during the Falklands conflict, a nice plan B only 8 hrs away if things went wrong don’t you think.
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Re: Can We Trust Russia? « Reply #9 on: February 10, 2007, 08:45 PM »
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I know my Government is not gonna nuke without reason..so yes I TRUST the British Government with our Nuclear Weapons.
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Re: Can We Trust Russia? « Reply #10 on: February 10, 2007, 11:23 PM »
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What country would nuke without a reason? Question is, what sort of reason would it be.
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Re: Can We Trust Russia? « Reply #11 on: February 10, 2007, 11:47 PM »
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What country would nuke without a reason?


Iran  Think 

But on the russian subject, I trust them politically better than the americans. However, the americans are our allies, so unless we get a Hugh Grant Love Actually style PM (oh yes, what a legend) that;s not likely to change.

Putin, spot on with the US though.
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Re: Can We Trust Russia? « Reply #12 on: February 10, 2007, 11:57 PM »
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Iran  Think 
They would have a reason! Like, everyone else is infidels lol
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Re: Can We Trust Russia? « Reply #13 on: February 10, 2007, 11:58 PM »
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They would have a reason! Like, everyone else is infidels lol

Well obviously they have a reason. But what i mean obviously is if it's genuiene to the country. I think that would just be to the leader is what i;m worried about.
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Re: Can We Trust Russia? « Reply #14 on: February 11, 2007, 12:07 AM »
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They would have a reason! Like, everyone else is infidels lol

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