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Re: Christchurch earthquake « Reply #60 on: March 01, 2011, 01:42 AM »
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Official toll now 154 and police say it will end up "around 240" which sounds a bit optimistic given there's still 200 odd listed as missing.

In a piece of minor nice news, 2 pretty old looking time capsules have been found amongst the rubble outside Christchurch Cathedral.

Apparently Ryan Nelsen has been given time off from Blackburn Rovers to go back to Chirstchurch - he's a Christchurch boy and still has family there.
Well done to BR but I expect they couldn't do much else in the circumstances.

Actually I just remembered the other day that I have relatives, although not close ones, in NZ, but I can't remember where and anyway the last time any contact was made was about 15 years ago.  Still, I hope if they're in the Christchurch area that they're OK.

The time capsules sound like they could be really interesting.

Can't see why there's still a problem with the numbers missing.  Surely the victims' families would have been in touch with the authorities by now?  There's a help-line in the UK for anybody wanting to enquire about friends/relatives who might have been in the area at the time of the quake.

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Re: Christchurch earthquake « Reply #61 on: March 01, 2011, 02:45 AM »
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Think the exact number of missing is uncertain because there may be a lot of overseas tourists (particularly in places like Christchurch Cathedral on a Tuesday afternoon) whose families/friends have been unable to get in touch with anyone to have them on missing lists or perhaps simply don't know they were in Christchurch or even NZ at the time, some people may be accidentally listed as missing (ie, I work for the Government agency for state housing and we are in charge or sorting out emergency accommodation for people affected - our assessors visited the house of one of our tenants who was listed as missing the other day and found him alive and well there), and some people may simply have no family to report them as missing.

There may also be a number of people listed as missing who are in hospital but in such a bad condition that they are unknown at the moment. You may have seen the picture of this guy very soon after the quake as he was one of the first pulled out and his photo was splashed all over the world. Despite the photo his family could not locate him anywhere and only found out yesterday, almost a week later, that he'd actually died. There are likely also a number of people listed as missing who are also part of the death toll but are such a condition that they are yet to be identified.

So the exact number of missing is not really known and it's likely that the 200 estimated includes some who have been found, either dead or alive, but are not yet identified and removed from the list. It's certain the death toll will go way over 200, but how high noone realy knows.
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Re: Christchurch earthquake « Reply #62 on: March 01, 2011, 03:15 AM »
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Thanks for the info.  I can see now how, in the confusion that has followed the quake, figuring out the exact number of deaths could be a lengthy process, and also that identifying some of the corpses could be extremely difficult if not impossible.  I remember that some of the stories that came out in the weeks following 9/11 were utterly sickening.

Thanks also for the photo, which I somehow missed, and the story about Shane.  Tragic.  
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Re: Christchurch earthquake « Reply #63 on: March 01, 2011, 09:15 AM »
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Think the exact number of missing is uncertain because there may be a lot of overseas tourists (particularly in places like Christchurch Cathedral on a Tuesday afternoon) whose families/friends have been unable to get in touch with anyone to have them on missing lists or perhaps simply don't know they were in Christchurch or even NZ at the time, some people may be accidentally listed as missing (ie, I work for the Government agency for state housing and we are in charge or sorting out emergency accommodation for people affected - our assessors visited the house of one of our tenants who was listed as missing the other day and found him alive and well there), and some people may simply have no family to report them as missing.

There may also be a number of people listed as missing who are in hospital but in such a bad condition that they are unknown at the moment. You may have seen the picture of this guy very soon after the quake as he was one of the first pulled out and his photo was splashed all over the world. Despite the photo his family could not locate him anywhere and only found out yesterday, almost a week later, that he'd actually died. There are likely also a number of people listed as missing who are also part of the death toll but are such a condition that they are yet to be identified.

So the exact number of missing is not really known and it's likely that the 200 estimated includes some who have been found, either dead or alive, but are not yet identified and removed from the list. It's certain the death toll will go way over 200, but how high noone realy knows.

That article - http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/christchurch-earthquake/4711037/Despair-as-family-plans-funeral-for-Shane-Tomlin - is so badly written. It's not clear that he's actually died. It states several times that the police had told his family to 'prepare for a funeral', but the reporting doesn't tell you the facts.

If I'd written that article, my first sentence would have been, 'The man whose picture became the human face of the Christchurch earthquake has died.'
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Re: Christchurch earthquake « Reply #64 on: March 01, 2011, 10:46 AM »
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Was at the girlfriend's place tonight and the whole house suddenly shook for about 5 seconds. Not strong enough to make anything fall off a shelf, but still slightly concerning nonetheless, and she was pretty scared having never felt one before. Must have been a minor earthquake somewhere not too far away, second time I've felt one since moving here but much stronger than the first which I thought was just a strong gust of wind until getting to work and reading online there was a small earthquake in Palmerston North that was felt here.

Edit: And there it is. 4.5 earthquake in Wellington. Must start sorting out emergency supplies.
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Re: Christchurch earthquake « Reply #65 on: March 01, 2011, 11:14 AM »
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Was at the girlfriend's place tonight and the whole house suddenly shook for about 5 seconds. Not strong enough to make anything fall off a shelf, but still slightly concerning nonetheless, and she was pretty scared having never felt one before. Must have been a minor earthquake somewhere not too far away, second time I've felt one since moving here but much stronger than the first which I thought was just a strong gust of wind until getting to work and reading online there was a small earthquake in Palmerston North that was felt here.

Edit: And there it is. 4.5 earthquake in Wellington. Must start sorting out emergency supplies.

Scary. Take care of yourself hug
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Re: Christchurch earthquake « Reply #66 on: March 02, 2011, 05:39 AM »
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Was at the girlfriend's place tonight and the whole house suddenly shook for about 5 seconds. Not strong enough to make anything fall off a shelf, but still slightly concerning nonetheless, and she was pretty scared having never felt one before. Must have been a minor earthquake somewhere not too far away, second time I've felt one since moving here but much stronger than the first which I thought was just a strong gust of wind until getting to work and reading online there was a small earthquake in Palmerston North that was felt here.

Edit: And there it is. 4.5 earthquake in Wellington. Must start sorting out emergency supplies.
The UK isn't immune from earthquakes although the greater majority have been of a small magnitude and caused no structural damage.  I've only experienced one very brief tremor, and that was in Glasgow.  It was weird.  At the time I was standing up and thought I'd just had a dizzy spell for a couple of seconds and nobody else in the house noticed it, but it was mentioned the following day in the newspapers, its epicentre being just outside the city.
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Re: Christchurch earthquake « Reply #67 on: March 02, 2011, 07:47 AM »
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Edit: And there it is. 4.5 earthquake in Wellington. Must start sorting out emergency supplies.

It appears that you weren't the only one thinking that today - bumper sales on emergency supplies!
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Re: Christchurch earthquake « Reply #68 on: March 02, 2011, 07:49 AM »
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The UK isn't immune from earthquakes although the greater majority have been of a small magnitude and caused no structural damage.  I've only experienced one very brief tremor, and that was in Glasgow.  It was weird.  At the time I was standing up and thought I'd just had a dizzy spell for a couple of seconds and nobody else in the house noticed it, but it was mentioned the following day in the newspapers, its epicentre being just outside the city.

I remember this happening in the UK and checking with family members that they were ok - next county but not that far from where our families live.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Lincolnshire_earthquake

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Re: Christchurch earthquake « Reply #69 on: March 02, 2011, 07:52 AM »
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Some video coverage of inside the Grand Chancellor Hotel - the 26 storey building leaning precariously.

http://www.3news.co.nz/A-first-look-inside-the-damaged-Grand-Chancellor/tabid/309/articleID/200583/Default.aspx
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Re: Christchurch earthquake « Reply #70 on: March 02, 2011, 08:40 AM »
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Thanks for the links Bev.....very interesting. I wonder if they will rebuild the city. I don't think I would feel comfortable living there. You'll already know how we Brits spend a lot of time complaining about our weather.....it's almost traditional. We should just be thanking God instead. I feel so sorry for those familys who have lost someone, and the people who have lost their homes and livelyhoods. God bless them!
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Re: Christchurch earthquake « Reply #71 on: March 02, 2011, 10:34 AM »
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Apparently the building next to our work office (actually joined to it) is listed by Wellington City Council as "earthquake prone" which basically means it will collapse like the CTV building in an earthquake. Our emergency exit stairs are on the side right next to it and would therefore be destroyed in such an emergency and we would be trapped. Moving out of this office in the weekend so only 2 more days to get through!
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Re: Christchurch earthquake « Reply #72 on: March 02, 2011, 06:34 PM »
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Apparently the building next to our work office (actually joined to it) is listed by Wellington City Council as "earthquake prone" which basically means it will collapse like the CTV building in an earthquake. Our emergency exit stairs are on the side right next to it and would therefore be destroyed in such an emergency and we would be trapped. Moving out of this office in the weekend so only 2 more days to get through!

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Aren't there about 4,000 in Wellington that are earthquake prone Think  search

Yep, here's the quote

"There are 3,800 buildings that are potentially earthquake-prone because they were built before the current codes," says Mayor Celia Wade-Brown.

http://www.3news.co.nz/Quake-a-wake-up-call-for-Wellington/tabid/423/articleID/200584/Default.aspx
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Re: Christchurch earthquake « Reply #73 on: March 02, 2011, 06:38 PM »
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Thanks for the links Bev.....very interesting. I wonder if they will rebuild the city. I don't think I would feel comfortable living there. You'll already know how we Brits spend a lot of time complaining about our weather.....it's almost traditional. We should just be thanking God instead. I feel so sorry for those familys who have lost someone, and the people who have lost their homes and livelyhoods. God bless them!

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One week after the devastating quake that shattered Christchurch and the search and recovery effort is far from over. But the long-term planning has only just begun as the sheer enormity of the task becomes clear.

The Christchurch CBD will be out of action for months, there has already been an understandable exodus out of the city and many Canterbury-based businesses remain trapped in limbo, unsure whether they will ever be able to resume trading again.

Now is not the time to make firm plans for the future of Christchurch, with the grief and pain from the tragedy still too raw, but the first plans for a post-quake Canterbury are slowly getting underway, while the cost of rebuilding is sending economists scrambling for a calculator.

http://nz.news.yahoo.com/opinion/post/-/blog/news_makers/post/40/comment/1
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Re: Christchurch earthquake « Reply #74 on: March 03, 2011, 03:00 AM »
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The search for survivors has been called off and it is now officially called "body recovery." Nothing we didn't know given no survivor has been found since Feb 23, the day after the quake.

Official toll currently 161.
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