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Re: Elizabeth Gwen 27.4.70 by George Parker « Reply #105 on: June 07, 2010, 10:06 PM »
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It was your use of flowerly language that had me rocking and rolling .... Very Happy
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Re: Elizabeth Gwen 27.4.70 by George Parker « Reply #106 on: June 08, 2010, 02:51 AM »
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Yeah, there is a plot to lose. It become quite entangled, as well.

As Sir Walter Scott said in “Marmion” in 1808:

“What a tangled web we weave,
When first we practice to deceive.”

There’s a lotta that !

Amazing - until now I'd always thought that quote came from Shakespeare, but apparently so did a lot of others ... and me having read "Marmion" at school in English Lit., but then, I was only about 13, and the epic poem bored the entire class to death.

George, I can relate to the betrayal bit.  Not quite as dramatic, but I remember how I felt two years into our marriage when I discovered a pile of very explicit porny mags stuffed under the bed - the marital bed!  Not only could hubby at least have had the decency to put them somewhere else, but when I confronted him about them, he said they turned him on and why couldn't I ..., etc, etc.  Anyway, the downward spiral had already begun and we separated 18 months later.  I then started having a relationship with one of his friends who lived close by, although that was fairly short-lived because his (ahem) willie was so big intercourse was painful and he seemed to take forever to come ... fainting

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Re: Elizabeth Gwen 27.4.70 by George Parker « Reply #107 on: June 08, 2010, 09:29 AM »
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It was your use of flowerly language that had me rocking and rolling .... Very Happy

Flowery !! ???   What's flowery?
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Re: Elizabeth Gwen 27.4.70 by George Parker « Reply #108 on: June 08, 2010, 09:48 AM »
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Amazing - until now I'd always thought that quote came from Shakespeare, but apparently so did a lot of others ...

Me too, but I’ve got the Oxford Compendium Concise Dictionary on CD-Rom with a “Quotations” section.  Very handy.

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and me having read "Marmion" at school in English Lit., but then, I was only about 13, and the epic poem bored the entire class to death.

What really fascinates me about “Marmion” is that I’m an ardent lover of Jane Austen and have all her books on my Ipod and listen to them continually, and she quotes Scott, (and Gray .. incorrectly !! which I cannot believe !! “and wastes its FRAGRANCE instead of SWEEETNESS on the desert air” .. bit of a sad poem that one, as well as being amazingly Socialist, 100 years before Marx and 150 years before George Bernard Shaw) but was writing herself at the same time as he was writing Marmion in 1808.

 
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George, I can relate to the betrayal bit.  Not quite as dramatic,

You ain’t seen nuthin yet!!

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but I remember how I felt two years into our marriage when I discovered a pile of very explicit porny mags stuffed under the bed - the marital bed!  Not only could hubby at least have had the decency to put them somewhere else, but when I confronted him about them, he said they turned him on and why couldn't I ..., etc, etc. 

Nasty.

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Anyway, the downward spiral had already begun and we separated 18 months later. 

Right.

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I then started having a relationship with one of his friends who lived close by, although that was fairly short-lived because his (ahem) willie was so big intercourse was painful and he seemed to take forever to come ... fainting

Hmmm. I can’t help thinking that there must have been a bit more to it than that.
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Re: Elizabeth Gwen 27.4.70 by George Parker « Reply #109 on: June 08, 2010, 12:48 PM »
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In fact I’m a bit worried that everybody is going to find it so atrociously intriguing that their eyes are going to pop out.


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Flowery !! ???   What's flowery?

<giggle giggle George> .... maybe "unexpected" is more appropriate than "flowery" ............. hug
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Re: Elizabeth Gwen 27.4.70 by George Parker « Reply #110 on: June 08, 2010, 03:49 PM »
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<giggle giggle George> .... maybe "unexpected" is more appropriate than "flowery" ............. hug

Right. I think I can understand that. It all gets much worse though.
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Re: Elizabeth Gwen 27.4.70 by George Parker « Reply #111 on: June 09, 2010, 12:26 AM »
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Hmmm. I can’t help thinking that there must have been a bit more to it than that.

You're right.  He was a widower by the time he was in his late 20s,  his wife having died very tragically from an inoperable brain tumour when she was 25, leaving him to bring up their two-year-old daughter.  He was a very emotional and passionate man but after a view visits I realised that I was really being used as a vehicle for his sexual frustration, and that wasn't what I was looking for
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Re: Elizabeth Gwen 27.4.70 by George Parker « Reply #112 on: June 09, 2010, 11:40 AM »
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You're right.  He was a widower by the time he was in his late 20s,  his wife having died very tragically from an inoperable brain tumour when she was 25,

That must have left him totally shattered.

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leaving him to bring up their two-year-old daughter. 

That must have made it even worse.

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He was a very emotional and passionate man but after a view visits

I guess he was totally shattered and heart-broken.

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I realised that I was really being used as a vehicle for his sexual frustration, and that wasn't what I was looking for

I guess he was looking for a surrogate mother for his daughter too.
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Re: Elizabeth Gwen 27.4.70 by George Parker « Reply #113 on: June 10, 2010, 12:59 AM »
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I guess he was totally shattered and heart-broken.
It was really dreadful for him.  I knew his wife too and she was a lovely person.  I think you'll understand when I say that she died a year after the tumour was diagnosed.  It was a very slow-growing one, and during that time he, and those who knew her, had to watch as paralysis gradually spread throughout her body, whilst she remained mentally alert until near the end.  This happened in 1970, and it's possible that today something could have been done to save her.  It didn't help either that he was the manager of a fairly upmarket restaurant and therefore often had to work in the evenings, and her family blamed him for not looking after her properly and thereby worsening her condition.

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I guess he was looking for a surrogate mother for his daughter too.
His daughter was six by the time we had our little fling, but I don't think he was looking for a surrogate mother for her.  He'd changed his job by then and was working 9-5 in an insurance office so was able to devote his entire time to her, even to the extent of rarely going out with his friends.  Purely by chance we met each other at a bus stop several years later, and he told me he hadn't remarried.
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Re: Elizabeth Gwen 27.4.70 by George Parker « Reply #114 on: June 10, 2010, 01:21 PM »
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It was really dreadful for him. 

It was.

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and those who knew her, had to watch as paralysis gradually spread throughout her body,

Same thing happened to my daughter over nine months. She became increasingly paralysed, except that she was also in pain, but nobody explained it to me until the last month.

Her digestion packed up from the outset. She continued to lose half a pound a day whatever I fed her. She ended up like a famine victim. There were photos of famine victims in Biafra constantly on TV at the time with Bob Geldorf raising world-wide support for their relief, but nobody was interested in raising support for the relief of victims like her at home.

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He'd changed his job by then and was working 9-5 in an insurance office so was able to devote his entire time to her, even to the extent of rarely going out with his friends.

I gave up work altogether and attended Lorraine 24/7 for nine months. I kept graphs of what she could do and what she couldn’t, to try to work out what was happening.

At the end I was told she had only two weeks to live, and was on the point of no longer being able to swallow her pain-killers and was going to spend her last two weeks dying slowly in increasing agony.

She looked at me pitifully at the time, as if to say: “Dad you’re not really going to make me go through this are you?”
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Re: Elizabeth Gwen 27.4.70 by George Parker « Reply #115 on: June 10, 2010, 01:38 PM »
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^ Very Sad 

Jeez.  It puts stuff into perspective. 
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Re: Elizabeth Gwen 27.4.70 by George Parker « Reply #116 on: June 10, 2010, 01:42 PM »
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^ Very Sad 

Jeez.  It puts stuff into perspective. 

Or has you in tears.
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Re: Elizabeth Gwen 27.4.70 by George Parker « Reply #117 on: June 10, 2010, 01:44 PM »
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George, are you done providing evidence for a divine creator?
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Re: Elizabeth Gwen 27.4.70 by George Parker « Reply #118 on: June 10, 2010, 01:47 PM »
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Or has you in tears.
Totally..... 
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Re: Elizabeth Gwen 27.4.70 by George Parker « Reply #119 on: June 10, 2010, 03:25 PM »
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Oh George ..... hug
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