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Exactly Aileen and not only that, but remaining in the EU is as good as a guarantee to signing up to TTIP, in which case we can say goodbye to our wonderful NHS anyway! Shrug
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Wow!  Absolutely incredible!  Of course if our government wasn't giving the EU £350m per week just to help prop it up, then that would go a long way to ensuring the survival of the NHS.
   Help prop it up?  Isn't that like objecting to taxes that prop up the Government?  The travails of the NHS are not to be blamed on Europe, FFS. The health care in France and Germany is far superior to our shambles.
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  Help prop it up?  Isn't that like objecting to taxes that prop up the Government?  The travails of the NHS are not to be blamed on Europe, FFS. The health care in France and Germany is far superior to our shambles.
Aileen was not 'blaming' anyone! She merely pointed out that the £350m we hand over to the EU every week could be better spent! As far as the health care in France and Germany being 'far superior to ours is concerned....aye...I'll bet it is!
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   Help prop it up?  Isn't that like objecting to taxes that prop up the Government?  The travails of the NHS are not to be blamed on Europe, FFS. The health care in France and Germany is far superior to our shambles.
So how come Britain is widely reckoned as having the best health care in the world, and a free one at that?   True it does have its failings but most of them are due to a disgraceful lack of funding by the government which has meant many hospitals having to be closed and the ones still left very often under-staffed, which means staff are working under tremendous pressure, and when that happens that's when mistakes get made.  Edinburgh now only has four hospitals, the Royal, the Western, the Sick Kids and the Royal Edinburgh, which is ridiculous for a city of nearly half a million people.
   
Aileen was not 'blaming' anyone! She merely pointed out that the £350m we hand over to the EU every week could be better spent!
That's exactly what I meant Caz.  Also I'd be interested to know exactly what the EU does with that weekly £350m, or is it the case that it simply disappears into the black hole that is the coffers of Brussels?
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So how come Britain is widely reckoned as having the best health care in the world, and a free one at that?   True it does have its failings but most of them are due to a disgraceful lack of funding by the government which has meant many hospitals having to be closed and the ones still left very often under-staffed, which means staff are working under tremendous pressure, and when that happens that's when mistakes get made.

The NHS is the fifth-largest employer in the world. In what way does that tally with our population?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_employers

Doesn't sound like anything to be proud of. They could do away with five layers of management and save a fortune at no detriment to efficiency.
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They could do away with five layers of management and save a fortune at no detriment to efficiency.
Unfortunately the NHS isn't the only organisation in this country which is strangled by the red tape of bureaucracy and which has too many chiefs and not enough Indians.  That doesn't though explain the fact that so many hospitals have been closed down over the last 20 years due to lack of funding.  Things are so bad now in Edinburgh that patients are often being referred to hospitals outside the city, and that is certainly not a desirable situation.
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The NHS has many problems but it needs re-forming not abolishing or destroying with creeping privatisation.
And like education, it should be taken out of the political arena. It's far too important to be left to politicians with political agendas.
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The NHS has many problems but it needs re-forming not abolishing or destroying with creeping privatisation.
And like education, it should be taken out of the political arena. It's far too important to be left to politicians with political agendas.
  Unfortunately the NHS is collapsing under the combined weight of demographics, raised expectations, technological advance, inflated bureaucracy, and of course, austerity.  You can have the most skilled and dedicated staff available, but lacking time and resources, the service cannot be claimed as anything like the best in the world.  The future does not bode well for the ageing population with non-life threatening conditions who cannot afford private treatment.
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The future does not bode well for the ageing population with non-life threatening conditions who cannot afford private treatment.
Nor those who do have life-threatening conditions but who can be expected to live for years thanks to advances in medicine, and on that note I get seriously annoyed when these people are regarded as a 'nuisance' because we're seen as being a drain on the NHS, particularly financially.
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My husband is going to have a second operation on his knee's. I have nothing but praise for the NHS. He is being taken early as he is very crippled and cannot walk any length. He was in hospital a few days ago and had all the required tests and has his operation on 23/2/16. He has been on the waiting list for two months. The care he has had has been great. The surgeon who is doing his op travels all over the world giving lectures  because he is so  highly regarded. Things are not as bad as we believe, it depends were you live. I live in Fife and cannot fault the care my husband has been given. Thank god we still have public health care if it was private we would not be able to afford it.
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Thank you for that positive post LB.  Also I'm very glad that your husband is going to have the op he so badly needs with the minimum of waiting time.
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