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Human cloning (replacement theory) « Reply #15 on: August 04, 2010, 12:29 PM »
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Yes, only the rich, so what? That's how life is. Only the rich can have big houses while the poor live on the street, that will never change and it shouldn't be an obstacle in seeking to extend our lives through technological advancement.
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Human cloning (replacement theory) « Reply #16 on: August 04, 2010, 12:29 PM »
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With the idea of cloning, overpopulation would be a definite in the future. Not to mention, who would get to clone? Only the rich, I would assume. So the poor people would keep procreating because apparently, that's their only option to extend their families, and continue to raise children in horrible conditions.

There's too many regulations for me to see this being set in place and working out well. What's wrong with giving birth and dying? It's a natural progression. Not to mention, if we continue to clone, wouldn't we stop evolution since there would be considerably less people procreating and mixing alleles? Someone can clarify me on this, since I wasn't the best person in biology.

Well, if cloning is perfect and there is no chance of errors (mutations), then evolution would come to a halt.
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Human cloning (replacement theory) « Reply #17 on: August 04, 2010, 12:31 PM »
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Exactly, so evolution can stop without any negative consequences.
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Human cloning (replacement theory) « Reply #18 on: August 04, 2010, 12:33 PM »
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Exactly, so evolution can stop without any negative consequences.

It depends on your perspective. Every other animal will continue to evolve. I don't think putting a cap on human evolution is exactly a good idea.
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Human cloning (replacement theory) « Reply #19 on: August 04, 2010, 12:34 PM »
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Planet of the Apes nervous
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Human cloning (replacement theory) « Reply #20 on: August 04, 2010, 12:34 PM »
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Planet of the Apes nervous

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Human cloning (replacement theory) « Reply #21 on: August 04, 2010, 12:35 PM »
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Yes, only the rich, so what? That's how life is. Only the rich can have big houses while the poor live on the street, that will never change and it shouldn't be an obstacle in seeking to extend our lives through technological advancement.

Then what is the point of it other to let the rich continue their own life cycles? I see no benefit to having this as an option or a way of life. If put into the wrong hands, this could be bad. Who clones them? The government or the health companies? The government can choose to keep it from the general public and clone themselves, for crying out loud.

I think it's more trouble than it's worth, but I won't be a pig head and try to get into a heated discussion or anything since I admit I'm not well versed on this issue. 
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Human cloning (replacement theory) « Reply #22 on: August 04, 2010, 12:35 PM »
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Whether we think it's right or wrong, it seems one of mankind's biggest goals will always be to extend life, there's just no stopping that and I'm thankful for it Smile
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Human cloning (replacement theory) « Reply #23 on: August 04, 2010, 12:37 PM »
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Then what is the point of it other to let the rich continue their own life cycles? I see no benefit to having this as an option or a way of life. If put into the wrong hands, this could be bad. Who clones them? The government or the health companies? The government can choose to keep it from the general public and clone themselves, for crying out loud.

I think it's more trouble than it's worth, but I won't be a pig head and try to get into a heated discussion or anything since I admit I'm not well versed on this issue. 

All your concerns seem to apply to many things in life, life just isn't fair... the rich will always get more than the poor.
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Human cloning (replacement theory) « Reply #24 on: August 04, 2010, 12:37 PM »
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That's just vanity and greed talking, as far as I'm concerned.
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Human cloning (replacement theory) « Reply #25 on: August 04, 2010, 12:38 PM »
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Marx may get his wish and there will be a class revolution. The rich will continue to clone and stagnate, while the poor will continue to procreate and evolve, increasing their "fitness". The poor will eventually becoming a superior race. Very Happy
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Human cloning (replacement theory) « Reply #26 on: August 04, 2010, 12:39 PM »
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All your concerns seem to apply to many things in life, life just isn't fair... the rich get more than the poor although sometimes that is fair.

Then why add to it? We're already dealing with loss of crops and other problems on this Earth. Our focus should be on how to fix these current problems than to create something new that would potentially cause even bigger ones. Cloning isn't a solution for anything.
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Human cloning (replacement theory) « Reply #27 on: August 04, 2010, 12:39 PM »
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That's just vanity and greed talking, as far as I'm concerned.
Your concerns perfectly apply to the healthcare system in America (before Obama at least), so I don't see them being anything new for cloning.

PS. I'm not very up-to-date in regards to the improvements Obama has made.
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Human cloning (replacement theory) « Reply #28 on: August 04, 2010, 12:41 PM »
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Cloning isn't a solution for anything.
Of course it is, cloning is the same solution that advancement in healthcare and medicine provide, less fatal illness and thus longer life. Now just because poor people can't always afford the same sort of help that rich people get in hospitals, doesn't mean we should forget about further investment in new medicine and advancements of surgery.
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Human cloning (replacement theory) « Reply #29 on: August 04, 2010, 12:44 PM »
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Of course it is, cloning is the same solution that advancement in healthcare and medicine provide, less fatal illness and thus longer life.

So we're healthy, but our planet isn't? We can't thrive in an environment that's deteriorating quickly.

Your concerns perfectly apply to the healthcare system in America (before Obama at least), so I don't see them being anything new for cloning.

PS. I'm not very up-to-date in regards to the improvements Obama has made.

The USA is not the only prominent country on this earth and while each government is different, I don't see how they'll all be able to regulate this in a way that each country agrees with.
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