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Mark
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Re: Jews, who are they?
« Reply #240 on: October 27, 2009, 03:45 PM »
Quote from: HazelMP on October 27, 2009, 02:11 PM
I thought it was fairly straightforward?
Clearly the Supreme Court disagrees!
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Re: Jews, who are they?
« Reply #241 on: October 27, 2009, 06:28 PM »
This all sounds very messy ...
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Re: Jews, who are they?
« Reply #242 on: October 27, 2009, 06:42 PM »
Quote from: Mark on October 27, 2009, 03:45 PM
Clearly the Supreme Court disagrees!
I don't think you're correct, Mark, although it's not your fault for thinking that's what the Supreme Court are deciding.
The BBC article, particularly at the start is actually written extraordinarily badly! They write that the question put forward to the court is "Who is a Jew", and whether "practice" (i.e. religion) or "bloodline" (i.e. race) defines a Jew. That is not actually the case. Everyone agrees those are two possible meanings of being a "Jew". The question is just whether it's racially discriminating to have an acceptance policy to a Jewish school relying on the racial definition of a Jew.
On face value it seems to be discrimination, however the school's argument is that religious practice counts for nothing in Orthodox Judaism, and only your bloodline (or religious conversion) makes you Jewish, so their particular acceptance policy is not racist - if anything it's Orthodox Judaism's view which is racist.
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Re: Jews, who are they?
« Reply #243 on: October 27, 2009, 06:46 PM »
That's ^ what I got out of the article ..... like I said, it all sounds very messy with possible spin-off problems in other faith schools.
I have a friend in the US who is a practising Catholic, who has two little girls. She sent both of them to the Jewish school because it was offering the best education around.
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Re: Jews, who are they?
« Reply #244 on: October 27, 2009, 06:58 PM »
Which State/City was this in? And I'd bet it was a Reform Judaism school...
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Re: Jews, who are they?
« Reply #245 on: October 27, 2009, 06:59 PM »
Pa. No idea about the remainder of your remarks ...
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Re: Jews, who are they?
« Reply #246 on: October 27, 2009, 07:03 PM »
Interesting. Didn't know there was a large enough Jewish community there to support a school...
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Mark
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Re: Jews, who are they?
« Reply #247 on: October 27, 2009, 07:05 PM »
Quote from: Yamor on October 27, 2009, 06:42 PM
I don't think you're correct, Mark, although it's not your fault for thinking that's what the Supreme Court are deciding.
Silly BBC
I didn't read the article btw, just the start which clearly was the worst thing to read.
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Re: Jews, who are they?
« Reply #248 on: October 27, 2009, 07:05 PM »
Apparently it is an outstanding school - someplace close to Harrisburg I'd think. The little girls were also receiving Jewish Religious Instruction along with their classmates and learning lots of different aspects of the Jewish culture. IMO - all to their benefit. They have since moved and therefore changed school but have retained their friendships ...
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Re: Jews, who are they?
« Reply #249 on: July 14, 2011, 10:22 PM »
I'm sorry to bring up this old thread but every time I see a guest browsing this, I can't help but laugh at the title.
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Re: Jews, who are they?
« Reply #250 on: July 14, 2011, 10:25 PM »
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Re: Jews, who are they?
« Reply #251 on: July 14, 2011, 10:26 PM »
Sorry, looking for comic relief in any form while this forum is in a war.
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Re: Jews, who are they?
« Reply #252 on: July 14, 2011, 10:35 PM »
Lets bring up random old threads from the good old days and bring this forum back to what it was.
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