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How hard is it to find a job? « on: December 08, 2013, 05:08 PM »
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Honestly, I never thought something I wanted so badly in my life could be this difficult to find.. I've applied for jobs as often as I can, as long as they are convenient to get too, and something that I would be able to handle with my Aspergers. Yet no matter what, my applications, or interviews always fail. I mean I've been rejected from MugDonalds for **** sake. And even though I have worked for Asda in the past the clowns keep rejecting me :



^those are the most recent rejections.

I mean there is nothing wrong with me. I have experience working in a retail environment, have worked in a restaurant before, yet these mugs still reject me.

I am 21 in a month and would like to go travelling, yet I still cannot afford it, and I am going to have to leech off my parents and go on Holiday with them instead because I am sick of being in this country and need a break no matter what. But I'd love to go travelling alone, or with friends, yet due to shitty companies not even offering me an interview it's not possible. The frustrating thing is that most of my mates have a job, I don't know why I can't find one if they can.

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Re: How hard is it to find a job? « Reply #1 on: December 08, 2013, 05:36 PM »
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I know how you feel Prodigy. I have a son and daughter both have degree's. My son took 2 years to get a descent job he now works for RBS in Edinburgh. He like you sent out lots of job applications and he had three interviews before he got his. My daughter has a degree as well she has just found a part time position after lots of job applications and interviews She is a single parent so has found it hard going and we have done all we can to support her. Don't worry your parents will understand you must get fed up but you are trying hard and all you can do is keep trying.Perhaps you might need some advice about interviews maybe the job center could help with that. Do not give up I know that is easy for me to say but don't get up tight. There are many young people in the same position as you and they will have the same problems. Try and relax you are getting yourself in a right state and that will not help. Hope my advice might help it is getting near Christmas enjoy the holiday season as much as you can. Most companies will not start recruiting until the new year so relax a little and enjoy Christmas. I wish you all the best in finding a job.
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Re: How hard is it to find a job? « Reply #2 on: December 08, 2013, 05:43 PM »
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Joe......is Aspergers listed as a disability? Do you have to tell potential employers that you've been diagnosed with it? If so, then I suggest the next time you go for an interview, you tell them just what you've said in your opening sentence and also take the list of famous people I sent you and show it to them! I'll bet they don't realise all these highly accomplished people had it! Be truthful and tell them what a hardworker you are and how trustworthy and reliable you are and all you ask is for someone to give you a chance!
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Re: How hard is it to find a job? « Reply #3 on: December 08, 2013, 06:37 PM »
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I always list it down as a disability on my application forms, but I am not so sure if that helps. I think companies lie when they say they offer equal opportunities, and those who state a disability on their application forms instantly get binned by some companies.
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Re: How hard is it to find a job? « Reply #4 on: December 08, 2013, 08:33 PM »
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I think companies lie when they say they offer equal opportunities, and those who state a disability on their application forms instantly get binned by some companies.
I would agree, sadly. Perhaps try leaving it out?
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Re: How hard is it to find a job? « Reply #5 on: December 08, 2013, 09:04 PM »
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Tried both, no luck really.
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Re: How hard is it to find a job? « Reply #6 on: December 08, 2013, 09:21 PM »
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Yep I'd leave it out. My partner has had similar experiences when listing epilepsy so just leaves it out now. The way they word the question is usually something like "do you have any disability/medical condition that will impact on your ability to work?" So you can leave it empty and if it comes up later on when you have the job you can say "well it's under control (ie with medication or whatever) so does not impact on my work." It does seem to be that the only reason they ask the question is so there's an automatic way to bin applicants without having to bother looking at their CV and cover letter.

Anyway I've posted about my experiences in the past, but I know exactly how you feel and it can be depressing. I have a first class honours degree but unfortunately finished Uni during the GFC when there were hardly any jobs and I failed to get a graduate position. Employers that usually took on 10 graduates a year were now taking 2 or 3 so I kept getting down to the last 5 and then missed out each time. 

It took me 2 years to get a job in the end, and I had to move half way to the other end of the country away from my family to get it. And it was only a fixed term contract and it took another 4 years of moving around on different contracts until I finally got something permanent.

I was very fortunate in that I had saved some money from various holiday jobs during studies, mostly at my Dad's office, and also some people fromy my tennis club gave me some work in the tennis shop they owned while I was looking for a full time job. So that coupled with having various relatives in different places around the world I could stay with for free allowed me to go off and travel for a few months while I had no commitments here.

All I can say is just keep trying and don't give up hope. Try talking to recruitment agencies. I didn't find them much use for someone at my stage of life initially, but they get me some interviews and did get me my last job.

Other than than, you could try volunteering while job searching as that's great to have on your CV and try offering yourself for free work experience to at least gain some experience, and perhaps put yourself in a good position when a job actually comes up at the place. Won't hurt to ask around, worst that can happen is they say no.

All the best and let me know if you want any advice on cover letters, CVs or interviews. Been through a lot of it in the last few years so happy to help.
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Re: How hard is it to find a job? « Reply #7 on: December 20, 2013, 12:01 PM »
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All anybody can say unfortunately is keep trying. For what it's worth, I spent about a year sending out hopeless applications before I got my current job. I thought it was completely impossible to actually get one. I didn't change my strategy or do anything differently, it's just random luck - so it's not your fault, or because you're doing something wrong, it's simply that there aren't enough jobs. That's the thing the careers adviser will never say - they prefer to pretend that just by tweaking your CV a little bit you'll get success (i.e. they like to pretend it's your fault for not getting a job, when actually it's just the job market).

It's particularly hard on younger people because the reaction to the crisis from most employers wasn't to fire the staff they already had, but simply to reduce the number they hired. I'm not saying firing people would be any better, but it's made it so much harder for people to get a first start. We have a situation now where vast numbers of young people are actually better qualified than their parents but they can't get a foot in the door.
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Re: How hard is it to find a job? « Reply #8 on: December 20, 2013, 02:20 PM »
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I agree about most of what has been said. It is still very difficult to get a job even if you have a degree. My son was unemployed for 2 year after he got hid degree. He eventually got a position through an agency that seems to best way to go. He changed his job a few months ago after applying to another agency and now works for RBS in Edinburgh. He got this because he had experience they required and was rewarded with a £6.000 increase in his salary.So I know it is hard but keep trying and do not mention you have a disability. I think if you do your application is thrown into the bin right away.I see no reason to mention it, hope you have better luck soon. Enjoy your Christmas and New Year. All the best wishes for your job hunt.
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