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Politics « on: February 12, 2010, 01:00 PM »
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Right, general election is coming but I know naff all about politics.  Is there something somewhere where you can compare the parties and then I can see which policys I agree with and make a decision, instead of just going for something coz he looks like a nice looking person ...
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Re: Politics « Reply #1 on: February 12, 2010, 01:01 PM »
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You can read all of the manifestos on their respective websites.

I'm a very politically confused person, I'm socially liberal but fiscally conservative.
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Re: Politics « Reply #2 on: February 12, 2010, 01:05 PM »
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Well I thought I was a Lib Dem person but for most elections I can't vote for that coz there is no Lib Dem MP in my town.

If I can't decide I'll vote BNP for a mad crack Think
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Re: Politics « Reply #3 on: February 12, 2010, 01:06 PM »
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I take interest in American politics but not much in the UK... generally I'm only bothered about taxes, like capital gains, income. What other sort of issues should I be interested in when it comes to comparing both parties?

Ideally, I'd like a newbie friendly comparison chart like you get on car insurance websites... make it nice and easy to see the important differences between the parties.
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Re: Politics « Reply #4 on: February 12, 2010, 01:09 PM »
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Immigration?
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Re: Politics « Reply #5 on: February 12, 2010, 01:09 PM »
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Yeah, that's a good one.

I don't feel strongly either way on that.
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Re: Politics « Reply #6 on: February 12, 2010, 01:09 PM »
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Ideally, I'd like a newbie friendly comparison chart like you get on car insurance websites... make it nice and easy to see the important differences between the parties.

Thats a brilliant idea!!
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Re: Politics « Reply #7 on: February 12, 2010, 01:10 PM »
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Yeah, that's a good one.

I don't feel strongly either way on that.

I do.  Shut the door.  Only skilled and needed allowed.  Right now we don't need anyone.  Should work the same way Australia let people in.
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Re: Politics « Reply #8 on: February 12, 2010, 01:14 PM »
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Yeah, I would side with that as well, we are pretty over populated.
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Re: Politics « Reply #9 on: February 12, 2010, 01:45 PM »
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Can't see anyone stopping the Tories coming back into power this year though.

Tommy is going to blow his pants.
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Re: Politics « Reply #10 on: February 12, 2010, 02:06 PM »
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I'm socially liberal but fiscally conservative.

Hell yes, that's me too. I used to like to think I was fairly right wing, but I think I come very much left of centre on pretty much everything other than tax...selfish socialist methinks.

And Amy, don't even joke about voting BNP...
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Re: Politics « Reply #11 on: February 12, 2010, 02:42 PM »
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Its not really a joke.  A good part of the stuff he said on Question time I agreed with.  Though I can't remember the parts I didn't quite so agree with Think
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Re: Politics « Reply #12 on: February 12, 2010, 02:52 PM »
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Seriously? Bloody hell.

The BNP proposes to reintroduce corporal punishment, and to make capital punishment available for paedophiles, terrorists and murderers.[127] In addition to increasing military defence spending, the BNP plans to reintroduce compulsory national service. The BNP proposes that men should keep a rifle and ammunition in their homes.[127] It proposes "to end the conflict in Ireland by welcoming Eire [sic] as well as Ulster as equal partners in a federation of the nations of the British Isles".[130]


The BNP requires that all members must be members of the "Indigenous Caucasian" racial group.[134] The party does not regard non-white people as being British, even if they have been born in the UK and are naturalised British citizens. Instead, Griffin has stated that "non-Europeans who stay", while protected by British law, "will be regarded as permanent guests".

The party has stated that it does not consider the Jewish, Hindu or Sikh religions to have a significantly detrimental or threatening effect, having several members with Jewish ancestry, but does not accept practising Sikhs or Hindus as culturally or ethnically British. In pursuit of the policy, the BNP has previously worked with extremists from the Sikh and Hindu communities in an anti-Islamic campaign and actively tried to win Jewish votes.

The BNP is opposed to mixed-race relationships on the stated ground that racial differences must be preserved; the party said that "when whites take partners from other ethnic groups, a white family line that stretches back into deep pre-history is destroyed." Nick Griffin stated: "...while the BNP is not racist, it must not become multi-racist either. Our fundamental determination to secure a future for white children is restated, and an area of uncertainty is addressed and a position which is both principled and politically realistic is firmly established. We don't hate anyone, especially the mixed race children who are the most tragic victims of enforced multi-racism, but that does not mean that we accept miscegenation as moral or normal. We do not and we never will"


Admittedly, I've just pulled that off wikipedia, but I find it difficult to condone a party that holds those sorts of views...
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Re: Politics « Reply #13 on: February 12, 2010, 03:01 PM »
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If the BNP could take a few Kalms they'd be sorted.  They are extreme I guess, maybe its just their immigration policy I agree with.  I think at the end of the day Britain should look out for its own people first then if they can help others out. 

From what I remember on Question Time, the Lib Dems had a similar point of view but don't seem like the people to actually go ahead with it.
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Re: Politics « Reply #14 on: February 12, 2010, 03:10 PM »
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But surely that one policy is outweighed by the fact that:

1. They don't believe that non-white people can be british
2. They believe in corporal punishment
3. They believe in capital punishment
4. They believe that homosexuality is only ok if it's behind closed doors
5. They actively persecute the muslim community
6. They don't believe in mixed race marriage

If elected, how can they be representative of any constituency? How can they stand for modern Britain when these are their views? So they shut the door to immigrants - what will that actually do? I don't want to sound like I'm forcing my views on anyone here - I'd much rather have a proper discussion about it, but I do feel quite strongly about this!
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