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[Lesann]

Interesting topic.

You might like to look up http://directionforourtimes.com. That might answer a few questions! 

From the Volumes, free downloads available of the booklets, you want to hear from God? Here you are, of course you're not obligated to believe any of it, but I think they're beautiful. Just have an open mind:

Vol 4 p97 Jesus says:

February 17, 2004
Jesus
My children, I call you My children because you were created by Me. I am your
God. I am the only God. Believe Me when I say to you that you will never have peace,
true peace, while you are separated from Me. And your eternity must be considered.
You will spend eternity in one of two places, dear little soul. You must give this
serious thought and determine where you would like to reside. You say you do not
believe in God or you do not believe that God would send people to hell forever. I
tell you today that it is not I, the only God there is, who condemns souls to hell. It is
the soul himself who chooses to reside in hell. Do you know why the soul chooses
hell? Because there are like-minded souls there. A soul who aligns himself with
darkness does not choose heaven because that soul would not be comfortable in
heaven. You must understand that you can be angry with God but God is not at
fault. You can blame God for all that iswrong with your world and perhaps this
will work for you on earth. I assure you though, on this day that this will cease to
work for you at the moment of your death. At that time there will be only yourself to
blame as the Truth is inescapable. You will be facing the one, the only, and the
true God and attempting to tell Him that He does not exist. How do you think this
will go for you? It will not go well, dear soul, and that is why I am speaking to you
now. I want you to divert from this path that leads to damnation. You are choosing
against Me now and I am asking you to stop. I love you. There are many Christians
in this world who love you and My love will flow through them to you. I want
you for My Kingdom. I need you to serve Me. You are capable of the highest goodness.
You are capable of bringing many souls to heaven for Me. Some of My greatest
friends were far worse sinners than you. Please come back to Me. I love you
and I can heal you and cure you. My forgiveness is yours. That hardly needs to be
said. The greater difficulty will be in persuading you to forgive yourself but I am
God and that would be only a small miracle for Me to perform. I will do that for
you. I will make of you another Jesus, walking the earth in love. Do you want
this? Can you picture it? Now, do not wait any longer. I shower you with graces. Lift
your precious face to the heavens and feel My love as I beseech you to turn away
from sin and follow Me.

[Lesann]

This was what I wanted to post originally but the Holy Spirit must have wanted P94 first!

Vol 4 P97

February 19, 2004
Jesus
My souls, I call you My souls because it is I who created you. You would like to
object to this and say that you were created through a series of biological events.
You would like to explain Me away. Dear souls, it is I who ordained the biological
event that was your birth. As I ordained it, I could have cancelled it. I could have
easily said, no, this soul will not serve Me as I would like to be served, therefore I
will cancel his birth. Why did I not do that? What prevented Me from interrupting
the birth of a soul destined to rebel against Me, setting a bad example for others?
I tell you solemnly on this day that I rejoiced at your birth because I loved you.
I do not stop loving a soul when they hurt Me. Does a parent stop loving their small
child when the small child disobeys? The child grows older and continues to disobey.
Can the parent ever truly stop loving their child? In most cases, no. A parent
continues to love the child, always hoping the child will one day return their love. I
am the same with you. I do exist, dear one and your saying that I do not exist does
not alter that fact. Here I am. I am speaking to you. I am knocking on the door of
your heart once again. Will you answer Me today? Will you allow Me into your
heart? I have such work to do there, My little wounded one. I look at you and see
exactly what you are capable of becoming. Do you think it is also a biological
event that you hold these words in your hand and read them? My little soul, so destined
to be loved by Me, allow your soul to lead you for a moment and believe that I want you back in My heart.
There is a place here for you and without you, I am
alone. I love you as though you were My only child. There is just you and I at this
moment. I do not want you to be lost. There is work in My kingdom for you and
this work can only be done by you. Please serve, dearest, so that we can begin travelling
together. I am waiting for you. I forgive you everything. Come back to Me and
you will understand freedom and joy.

[Clydey]

Because I'm lovable

You're like an otter who believes in God.

[Clydey]

Can't I be another cute animal? Not sure I want to be the same species as you Though if I remember rightly Mark pegged me as an otter before you stole my animal counterpart!

He did? How annoying.

You can be a religious wombat.

[Lesann]

And:

Vol 4 P99

February 20, 2004
Jesus
Dear children of God, why do you persist in living outside of My light? Do you think
I want to harm you in some way? Do you think it will be more difficult to live your
life if you follow Me and live as I have ordained? I want you to look closely today
at your life, at your relationships, and at your level of contentment. Do you have
true peace? Are others drawn to you because love flows from you? Do you communicate
joy to others? That is what I offer. You should possess true peace and security and joy and love should flow from you. Not a false peace, offered by the world and those that avoid Me. That peace does not last and does not pierce the boundary of your soul. The temporary
peace offered by the world numbs your pain for a time, leading you to believe you
have found the object of your search. Then that feeling wears off and you begin to search again, always looking for that thing which can only be found in Me. Shall I minister to you? Would you like Me to infuse your soul with courage and joy?
Dear one, that is what I do for My true followers. They do not escape life’s difficulties.
They have a steadiness that sets them apart from those who do not follow Me and who do not take advantage of heaven’s gifts. I want to share these gifts. On this day I want you to tell Me all day long that you believe in Me. You may not feel this. You may have a difficult time
even forming the words. But in your heart, all of this day, tell Me this. I can then give you graces that will help your disbelief. We will begin to shift the stubborn doubts sowed by the father of lies. You have nothing to lose. You have tried many other remedies for your discontent. Some of you have abused your bodies in an attempt to quiet the cries of your soul.
I want you to think of Me as another remedy for any difficult symptoms you are
experiencing. If I do not keep My promise, to grant you peace and joy, then you may
continue your search. But you must give Me a chance and to do that you must
spend time in silence with Me. Come to a church that houses a tabernacle (Catholic). Sit
before Me in silence. Allow Me to speak to you and I will speak to you. Be brave, little
soul. You have tried many more daring things than this, have you not? Come to Me now and give your God a chance.

[Aileen]

... Not to put you in a category, but I wondered if you'd had a bad experience of church when you were younger. Unfortunately common and I think more so for a lot of people in your generation in that post-war period when societies viewpoint changed so much and there was the choice for young people as to whether they continued to be a part of the church ...

Just pruned your comments down to take up less space.   Well, I guess you hit a bit of a raw nerve with me.  I'm not aggressive by nature.

To my church-going experiences when I was younger, you can also add that immediate post-war Scotland was still in the grip of pretty strong Presbyterianism, as many of the parents of my generation were brought up in a very strict Presbyterian way, and mine were no exception.  The result was that myself and a lot of my contemporaries started to rebel against religion.  You're right, society as a whole was changing, maybe as a result of the war.  Certainly when I did resume attending church years later of my own volition, albeit a little sporadically, I noticed how much gentler the church had become.  Pulpit-thumping was a thing of the past, God was no longer the angry, strict, demanding God I had been brought up to believe in, and that came as a relief to me, but, as I said, that fear is still ingrained.

As for the Bible, I do not see it as total fabrication.  A lot of it, particularly the New Testament, has a consistency which cannot be ignored, but I still find it difficult to believe that some things were not either misinterpreted or lost in its many translations, although I do know, from my own historical research, that King James appointed the most learned scholars of his day to translate his version.  Incidentally my comment about references to reincarnation being removed (I think it was allegedly at the time of the Reformation) originated from a conversation I had with a divinity student, so make what you will of that.

Hopefully, now we know where both of us are coming from, any future discussions we have will be mellower.    










    

[Daisy]

Does sound a bit scary...only kidding. Suppose it depends on what sort of people they are A lot of these things tend to be a day of talks and seminars and a chance for personal study and reflection, so I'd imagine she'd return to you safely
Is she a Christian? If so you might find her returned renewed and refreshed

Well, they are nice people, but a bit strident for me.  I'm sure that is as a result of being "born again".
I'm thinking she is not a Christian, BUT, she does attend their services - maybe they are going to strike while the iron is hot.  I surely hope she gets back in one piece - (how selfish does that sound !!)

How are you?  How's the funding - any joy?  I was doing my Meeter & Greeter stint at one of the hospitals today.  These poor souls - some of them are wound very tight - I just want to hug them!

Watch this space for a report on my, hopefully not erstwhile, cleaning lady !!

[Aileen]

Hazel - my response to you got overtaken while I was editing it.