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Re: Religious Discussions « Reply #90 on: August 09, 2007, 01:33 PM »
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It's the people that pedal out the mainstream arguments against it without having ever actually looked into it themselves that annoy me. They've heard it said so the use it.

I'm against religion as I think it's the cause for many many troubles in the world. I don't believe in God, though I don't exclude the possibility that he exists.
I don't think people posting in this thread are in any way judging Christians, more explaining their disbelief or disapproval towards all religions.

I don't base my disbelief on science or history, it just goes against my way of thinking, which is why I don't think any religion has it 'right'. The arguments used in this thread merely supported my opinions (like dinosaurs for example), but it's not why I don't believe. And I do think it's like that for quite a few people. You don't have to be an expert at science or religion just to reject the ideas behind it.
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Re: Religious Discussions « Reply #91 on: August 09, 2007, 01:41 PM »
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I'm against religion as I think it's the cause for many many troubles in the world.

I have to agree to disagree with you on this point, yes it causes many war, but it is the people who start the wars not the religion, if you are refering to islamic extremism which causes terror threats? In islam it does not teach to blow up buses, it is the peoples own views and brances of the religion that encourage it, but it is not the religion itself which is cause to the problems.
Along with that, as much as I don't believe in any religion, it is not a bad thing that people beliieve, as religion is a comfort to those in need and that is why I would never say it should all be banned and I think you should take that into account too.
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Re: Religious Discussions « Reply #92 on: August 09, 2007, 02:06 PM »
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I thought that was meant by stereotyping, honestly, with everything there are people who will ask questions, I know I do, people question things, I respect people who have utter faith in what the bible says, but of course there are going to be people who question things without knowing the bible back to front, I think that is what makes life interesting to be honest, not everyone having the same views so something so big as religion is constantly going to be questioned.

I get that, i do. And I don't have a problem with people who are genuinely interested in what I've got to say asking questions. Like on here, for example, I'm perfectly happy to have an open and honest discussion about it. But when people throw something like that at you when they don't actually care what your answer is and they're only doing it to trip you up because it's one of those mainstream arguments. that's what I'm talking about.
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Re: Religious Discussions « Reply #93 on: August 09, 2007, 02:53 PM »
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I have to agree to disagree with you on this point, yes it causes many war, but it is the people who start the wars not the religion, if you are refering to islamic extremism which causes terror threats? In islam it does not teach to blow up buses, it is the peoples own views and brances of the religion that encourage it, but it is not the religion itself which is cause to the problems.

But if there wasn't any religion to begin with, there wouldn't be any people stimulated to do such things for their beliefs.
And it's not just terrorism, so many wars have been caused because of nothing but religion; it has been in the past, and it will be in the future too.
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Re: Religious Discussions « Reply #94 on: August 09, 2007, 02:57 PM »
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I'm sure we've had this discussion before Dana. If it wasn't religeon they were fighting about it'd be land, power, money, race, politics. Sometimes it's not the cause of war but the excuse for it. Often, I agree, it has been the reason but I wouldn't say the world would be significantly more peaceful without religeon. They'd just fight about something else.
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Re: Religious Discussions « Reply #95 on: August 09, 2007, 02:59 PM »
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People will fight about anything. Any excuse to fight, yell, kill, bomb, etc.
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Re: Religious Discussions « Reply #96 on: August 09, 2007, 03:08 PM »
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But people already fight about all those things, religion is just one more reason.
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Re: Religious Discussions « Reply #97 on: August 09, 2007, 03:12 PM »
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That doesn't make it the sole blame for it.
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Re: Religious Discussions « Reply #98 on: August 09, 2007, 03:12 PM »
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I get that, i do. And I don't have a problem with people who are genuinely interested in what I've got to say asking questions. Like on here, for example, I'm perfectly happy to have an open and honest discussion about it. But when people throw something like that at you when they don't actually care what your answer is and they're only doing it to trip you up because it's one of those mainstream arguments. that's what I'm talking about.

Riiight, I get you. and get that.
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Re: Religious Discussions « Reply #99 on: August 09, 2007, 03:13 PM »
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That doesn't make it the sole blame for it.

Never said it did.
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Re: Religious Discussions « Reply #100 on: August 09, 2007, 03:21 PM »
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Never said it did.

You justified your last post with the fact that it was.

 
But if there wasn't any religion to begin with, there wouldn't be any people stimulated to do such things for their beliefs.
And it's not just terrorism, so many wars have been caused because of nothing but religion; it has been in the past, and it will be in the future too.
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Re: Religious Discussions « Reply #101 on: August 09, 2007, 03:23 PM »
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So are you against money, politics, power, racial freedom, owning land, freedom of speech, democracy too then?
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Re: Religious Discussions « Reply #102 on: August 09, 2007, 03:26 PM »
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You justified your last post with the fact that it was.

No, I said 'many' wars are. Didn't say all were.

So are you against money, politics, power, racial freedom, owning land, freedom of speech, democracy too then?

Those don't live up to what religion has caused in the past.
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Re: Religious Discussions « Reply #103 on: August 09, 2007, 03:32 PM »
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No, I said 'many' wars are. Didn't say all were.


Read what you said, you said "so many wars have been caused because of nothing but religion;"
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Re: Religious Discussions « Reply #104 on: August 09, 2007, 03:33 PM »
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Read what you said, you said "so many wars have been caused because of nothing but religion;"


Indeed... Many wars have happened only because of religion. That still doesn't mean all were. confused
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